How long will it be before the global warming community trash these scientists?

Question

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20071213/sc_livescience/magmamaybemeltinggreenlandice
But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth’s insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

"The behavior of the great ice sheets is an important barometer of global climate change,” said lead scientist Ralph von Frese of Ohio State University. “However, to effectively separate and quantify human impacts on climate change, we must understand the natural impacts too.”

Is it possible that nature has more to do with global warming that humans?

Dizz, I'm saying that the earth has gone through climate change long before the invention of the internal combustion engine. There was a ice age at one time remember. What caused that? What caused the global warm-up that followed?
Do I feel that humans contribute to global climate change? Probably, to a small extent, But nature expells mass amountrs greenhouse gas in volcanic events. Wildfires produce carbon monoxide.
BTW, it's not just one report that disputes man's involvement in global warming. There are many in the scientific community that disagree with the "consensus" and have been attacked as lunatics.

Dana, what caused the end of the ice age. I'm not saying that mankind should polute everything they can, I think it's only right that we be the best stewards of the planet that we can, that being said, I don't think that we can sign an agreement with every other nation and us be the only ones that get penalized by it. You can't tell me that China, India, Japan and Russia don't polute as much if not more than we in the US.Those countries don't have the epa standards on their vehicles that we do, nor do they have the epa regulations on their factory emissions that we do. The Kyoto agreement, in my opinion, is nothing more than a way for other countries to siphon off our money in fines.

Answer 1

Again, no one reads history - the Earth is following the same weather patterns as it has for the last 4000+ years. But now, people wanting to line their pockets with money claim we have global warming - then turn on the TV and see the 12+ inches of snow in Northern America. Tell me, who is laughing all the way to the bank?

Answer 2

Good for them.. since melting ice caps is just a SIDE EFFECT of global warming.. it is possible there are other things attributing to that one thing. But GLOBAL warming isn't just happening at the poles... otherwise it would be called Polar Warming.



And Yes, Nature regulates more of the heat retention than mankind does... but 4 degrees.. let me say that again 4 degrees separate Arid periods from Ice Ages. That is all the difference man has to make.

Answer 3

The Heartland Institute are a humorous tale they don't seem able to place forward something that dosen't fall to products whether that is that this record ~10% interior 24 hours of its launch announcing they new not something approximately being on the record sounds very reminiscent of the Oregon Petition which used a similar tactic. it is Heartland Institute inventory & commerce the convention they held in long island recently claimed quite a few hundred scientists yet grew to become out to have merely a handfull and that that they have been paid to attend.

Answer 4

Never.

As Think 1st points out, this finding does not undermine the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory.

"Global warming may not be the only thing melting Greenland."

Perhaps magma is also contributing to the melting of Greenland ice. What is causing Arctic sea ice to melt 3 times faster than the IPCC model predictions?

http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2864214.ece

There is tons of observational evidence supporting the AGW theory. Greenland ice melt is just one, and that another factor is contributing to its melting does not mean that global warming isn't.

Answer 5

I doubt that they trash them at all.

Your concern is understandable considering that trashing people is the first law of the neo-cons. Whenever someone presents information that does not support the neo-con agenda, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and neo-con senators go into attack mode.

If the information against Bush is strong enough, they unleash Ann Coulter followed by Dick Cheney exposing someones spouse to send a message.

YES! It is possible that nature has an impact on GW. That being said my common sense tells me to do what I can do versus dwelling on what I can't control.

Answer 6

The problem is that too many of these people denied that global warming was happening in the first place, and now that it is been proven as fact, they don't have any credibility anymore.

Whether or not humans are to blame for global warming, we need to take a serious look at how we affect our environment.

Even if humans are not to blame for global warming, ignoring it isn't going to make it go away.

Answer 7

Not ever, most likely. They have no need to question their work, the first sentence in your article says it all.

"Global warming may not be the only thing melting Greenland."

Answer 8

You think nature has more to do with humans dumping tons of waste into our air through factories and cars and disposable products. That's a lark.

Answer 9

You have to remember that "global warming" is a religion for many of these people and is sacred. Sadly for them, it is a "religion" based on lies.
Algore, their "pope" is one of the biggest "green hypocrites" in the world!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315721,00.html

Answer 10

The fact is that many leading scientists in climate related fields do not agree with the manmade theory. There are thousands of scientists that find great fault in this theory yet their voice is often ignored by the media expecially in the US. These arent fringe types but rather leaders in their fields...