I was going home on the late train two nights ago, when I saw some bloke obviously trying to pickpocket a woman standing in the middle of the train.
I was about to shout 'hey' when he was spotted by a large builder-looking fella standing not far away.
He grabbed the pickpocket, who was a skinny runt of a guy - about 30, bit unkempt - and starting beating the living sh1t out of him. Then, what I suspect was his mate, joined in. They kicked the cr4p out of this guy.
The woman poked him with her umbrella, sort of joining in.
Anyway, next stop, they door opens at Queenstown Road and they literally throw this guy onto the platform where he lies in a heap.
Thing is - I'm now thinking, on reflection, shouldn't I have done something? OK - he was a thief, but they nearly(?) killed this guy. Shouldn't I have intervened, or called an ambulance or something.
I know it's stupid, but it's really bugging me.
What would you have done? Did I do the wrong thing to sit on my bum and just look?
2007-12-12 08:02:01 · 20 answers · asked by JZD 7 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
Lets explore the possibilities here,
1) Lets say that being an upstanding member of society you put youself at risk by apprehending this miscreant and hold him until the police come. 2) He may well have a concealed weapon and kill you, worse still he may kill you and the woman. 3) the police come, arrest and charge him and the CPS drop the case. 4) He gets charged and cautioned and let free. 5) He goes to prison and gets released early because there are no spaces left. Either way the system values the perpetrator than the victim and until that changes I think you did the right thing. Life is all about choices when these go wrong it is inevitable that there will be ramifications and for the toerag in question made the wrong choice and subsequently paid for his actions so I wouldn't feel too guilty about it. The men that kicked the sh@t out of him should be award the public service medal for their service to society.
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2007-12-12 22:39:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
When you are confronted with a situation such as you describe it would take you quite a while to overcome your initial shock. By the time your mind refocuses to the reality and you begin to gather in the information your senses receive it is too late. Actions and re-actions have been played out. You might think now on hind-sight and decide that IF-ONLY ............ and feel guilty unnecessarily. Don't .
Unless you are a trained Police-Officer conditioned to take charge of Such situations with all the Backing of the Law, you acted Normally as most people would have done. Lets say The Thieving uncaring individual had met his match .
Leave it at that.
2007-12-12 08:25:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The courts can no longer cope already, with many circumstances taking 2 years or extra to be heard no longer that there is any actual justice interior the courts besides. The fairly overpaid high quality controls's do only bargains with one yet another to make their very own lives much less complicated - relatively justice has little to do with it
2016-12-10 21:04:59 · answer #3 · answered by ferranti 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Difficult one but at the end of the day the guy did wrong - he took the chances and paid the price. Camera's on the platform would have picked up on it and an ambulance called if needed. I've seen it before where people have helped these type of guys and they've ended up being robbed themselves for their trouble xxx
2007-12-12 08:07:26 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Can hardly believe I'm saying this, but maybe instant justice is the most effective. If the public always did this I wouldn't mind betting a lot of criminals would think twice for before before they took advantage of their victims. After all they've not much to worry about if they have to go to court have they, they just walk free and carrry on as usual.
2007-12-12 08:24:08 · answer #5 · answered by Ern T 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I wish the builder types had been around when two yobs took my bag some time ago. I was the only one to put up a fight and everyone else on the train was just like you .. raised their papers, thought me a loony for screaming and sat on their hands. I know who I'd sooner be on the tube with ... the builders!
2007-12-12 08:16:28 · answer #6 · answered by Sue C 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Hi, JZD, I learn that you are a lawyer. You answer my question about my failure to get a response from law firms regarding my enquiry. Would you mind putting me through to solicitors who are specialists in higher education dispute?
For your questoin, when I was young, I would say something and then I would somehow get involved and be beaten up as well or put in an embarrassing situation. Now I would keep silent.
I feel that you are a real lawyer that has conscience. I need help from someone like you for my case.
2007-12-12 12:47:08 · answer #7 · answered by wailoktam 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I think you did the right thing to not get involved as the two vigilanties may have turned their attentions to you. The guy got what he deserves initially but it seems the vigilanties went too far. Maybe you should have called the police anonymously when you left the train.
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2007-12-12 08:13:44 · answer #8 · answered by Smithers 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Difficult, but if you had reported it the woman who poked him with her umbrella would probably been charged with assault as well as the two guys and the attempted pickpocket would get off scot free.
2007-12-12 08:13:10 · answer #9 · answered by Fred3663 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would have joined in, and then thrown him on the tracks and let the train do him Justice, and not lost a wink of sleep over a sh-te bag like that.
2007-12-12 08:42:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋