You know, in "1984" where the government has torture performed in "The Ministry of Truth?" and the War Department is "The Ministry of Peace" and the slogans are:
WAR IS PEACE
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
and all that jazz?
2007-12-12 07:52:16 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Other - Politics & Government
bwana - take your bush apologies and go eat a banana. Torture is wrong, America is torturing, what is there to discuss?
2007-12-12 08:00:17 · update #1
to johnny 2 times - You're just a flat-out liar, aren't you? Or maybe just stupid.
Waterboarding is most certainly not "pouring water in someone's face" and you should be embarrassed to go online and tell the world you're that stupid.
2007-12-12 08:03:05 · update #2
Bwana: I am most certainly discussing FACTS.
Waterboarding is torture. That is a fact.
And people like YOU are the most dangerous of all. You have the gall to sit there and talk about each nation "deciding for themselves what is torture?"
I don't need for a committee somewhere to tell me what reality is, I have a brain.
People like you use "legalese" to piss on somebody's leg and tell 'em it's raining.
Here's a clue: If you wouldn't allow it to be done to somebody you love, IT'S TORTURE.
2007-12-13 01:56:27 · update #3
Yes, all they need now is a "Ministry of Love" where they can take them for "enhanced interrogation" or "extraordinary rendition". In case any of the other answerers haven't read 1984, the Ministry of Love was a huge windowless building where political dissidents were taken to be tortured if they didn't buy the lies and propaganda fed to them by the "Ministry of Truth." I'm seeing more of this doublespeak all the time and it worries me deeply.
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To those still defending the administration's policies, if they're so proud of the way they conducted these interrogations, why did they destroy the videotapes? That's the act of someone with something to hide.
2007-12-12 07:59:06 · answer #1 · answered by ConcernedCitizen 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Far too many people hit the "report it" button on Yahoo simply because they disagree with points made in a question or answer. It seems that yahoo's current policy is to hand out a violation if more than two people report something, whether it's a genuine violation or not. It seems that those who make perfectly reasonable and inoffensive points get punished, while activists of the extreme right, who often make offensive and/or racist comments, seem to get away with breaking as many Yahoo community guidelines as they please. It makes you wonder if Yahoo are as unbiased in these matters as they claim.
2016-04-08 23:11:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Squealer, that you?
EDIT:
"bwana - take your bush apologies and go eat a banana. Torture is wrong, America is torturing, what is there to discuss?"
That's bwana's point. Why are you trying to discuss when it appears you've already concluded. If you really wanted to discuss it, you would. It's apparent, you think it's torture, I don't think it is. Now, we can discuss the merits of our arguments, or you can take your toys, pout because not everyone agrees with you, and go home.
2007-12-12 07:57:00 · answer #3 · answered by MrOrph 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
So now pouring water on someones face is considered torture?
Does that mean that a dunking booth at the fair should now be known as a "torture chamber" in your circle?
Edit: Yes, torture is wrong. 100% wrong. But most definitions of torture include physical damage.
Your inclusion of psychological harm could prevent solitary confinement as a mode of punishment (along with just about anything else that someone decides makes them uncomfortable)
The problem with your definition of torture is that it seems more to hinge on what letter (R or D) falls after the administration performing the act.
Proof: I don't see you chastising Nancy Pelosi, who was fully briefed on the interrogation techniques, and said nothing until there was a public outcry.
Edit: Liar?!? LOL. Actually, the process of waterboarding involves strapping down a suspect, and pouring water over his or her face to simulate drowning. What part of my statement makes me a liar. Thanks for playing. LOL.
2007-12-12 08:01:12 · answer #4 · answered by Time to Shrug, Atlas 6 · 1⤊ 4⤋
Enhance techniques is something they are trying to use to save the white house from authorizing torturing people.
They claim is not torture nor water boarding, is enhanced techniques, we are sorry we destroyed the tapes of our cordial enhanced techniques.
2007-12-12 08:06:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
To people who understand the topic, there is a vast difference between aggressive interrogation techniques and torture.
Not that it appears you seek to engage in rational debate about it. You've made up your mind without thinking about it and you're into full insult mode.
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I guess in your leftist Ministry of Truth, yelling and insulting others is called rational discussion?
If you want to discuss FACTS, then you will have to deal with the FACT that there is nothing in any international treaty or agreement or anything where waterboarding is specifically designated a "torture". The determination of what procedures are or are not "torture" has been left to each country to define.
So before opening your pie hole, you just might want to consider looking at facts, rather than just trusting your emotional reaction and hatred of Bush. Then you might appear to know what you were talking about. Until then...
2007-12-12 07:58:18 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 6⤋
I think so. Waterboarding is "prisoner was given adequate fresh water".
2007-12-12 08:05:05 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Yes.
2007-12-12 07:56:16 · answer #8 · answered by Open your eyes 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
i am amazed the trolls let that one through. your "giggle, hogwash* didn't make it.
seems so, scary huh?
2007-12-12 10:04:41 · answer #9 · answered by Idonplay 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Oh absolutely!
2007-12-12 07:57:38 · answer #10 · answered by gone 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋