What if Hillary were the one condoning waterboarding on the POWs?

Question

Would waterboarding (torture) still be acceptable to you?

Or would you take my argument and claim that she is subverting the Geneva Conventions? Would it matter?

I'm sure I've made it onto a heckuva lotta lists, Jade ;)

Jack Bauer would be proud! "What if you had to save your child... "

Just how often, I wonder, does America find themselves in this predicament? Could you not just be using the least likeliest scenario to endorse the full-blown use of torture?

Look, my perspective is this: my husband was in Iraq for a friggin' year--I AM NOT defending the terrorists! America is better than them, and America is better than this idea that we have to torture people for information. Irregardless of the fact that it's been proven in study after study to be largely ineffective at getting the information you want, AMERICA IS BETTER THAN THIS.

We as a democratic, freedom-loving society is better than this! If we don't take the moral high ground, who else will? I can't be the only "principled" conservative among you all.

Answer 1

Given that she did support it at one time, see Washington Post, it makes no differance to me.

For me it is this simple. They are trying to kill us.

Here is a simple allogory. You have a high level of confidence that someone wants to kill your child. Yopu have in your posesion an individual who is likely to have information that could save your child.

Are you going to simply let you child die, or are you going to do EVERYTHING possible to save your child.

P.S. if you do NOT do everything possible to save your child then you are probably some form of human filth.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

I don't now if you are conservative but if you said so, it ok and your husband was fitting the terrorism on Iraque it ok and God bless him because he was fiiting to all us. If the America use the waterboarding to find information to avoid that terrorism kill inocent people I have to agree and the Geneve Convention must be acepted for terrorists as well.

Answer 4

Hillary wouldn't be in favor of it and if she were it would still be wrong. The fact that the only leading politician to have ever been a POW, John McCain, is against it says a whole lot.

Answer 5

Joe T, I agree that a good strategist is a good President, on the other hand you forget that strategy is only half the game and will not win it. We need a President that surrounds himself or herself with good strategist but is him/herself more of a leader, less of a thinker. Not to say the prez should be stupid, but good leadership is far more valuable in a prez than an ability to form a strategy. The hard decisions, as they say, have to be made by the one at top, where the buck stops. A President without the strength to make real decisions and act on them is no leader. Hillary will strategy us to oblivion.

Answer 6

Couple things.

1. Something being torture depends on how you define it. Waterboarding in my mind, and I'd say most people's is not as there is no physical harm that results and no mental harm with the exception of a broken ego afterwards.

2. The Geneva Accords say that soldiers that wear the uniform of another nation cannot be tortured. It says nothing about combatants who fight for a fragmented terrorist organization (Al-Qaeda).

I'm not supporting her by any means, but our country does abide by these accords. Besides, even if we didn't do anything that the enemy combatants might not like, do you really thing it will stop them from beheading and torturing our soldiers? Why do you defend the very people that are doing everything in their power to kill more of our soldiers and would give anything to kill you and your family?

Answer 7

I don't think she would do that. While she is FAR from perfect I think she has a much shrewder view of how to present America's image to the world than Bush does, and would not condone this practice.

After all, if America believes in torture, our moral strength in world affairs becomes greatly diminished IMO.

Hillary has one talent that Bush does not, and this is as a strategist---call it crafty, call it guile, call it deception if you will, but a good President is always a good strategist.

Answer 8

I would follow your argument but politicians lie all the time and it wouldnt matter anyway. You can see how Bush foold the world into thinking Iran was making nuclear weapons.

In my opinion Hillary has shown me that she cant be trusted cos of how Rudy and Romney called her out on flip flopping. Her whole campaign depends on this squeky clean image.

Waterboarding is torture no matter which way you want to slice it or play with the words to say it isnt. If we dont do it to criminals then why would we do it to POW's.

Answer 9

Torture is torture. As a country, we need to reject it. Even the NEOCONS know its wrong! That's why they had those tapes destroyed. And to all of you who feel its justified. Ask someone who's been tortured, like John McCain!

Answer 10

shouldn't matter. if we make the issue about a person instead of the substance of the issue, we're all lost anyway.