anyone wacthing cnn tonight see the big story about the CIA using waterboarding as a form of torture? I am an X marine and it is my opion that this is not torture. i can see how people woud be bothered by it..its not eaclty a nice thing to do....on Cnn they talked about how they used waterboarding on one of the key al queda guys, and it only took 38 secounds for him to give up valueable info... so lets look at waterboarding...a bunch of water is pourded down your throat to make you THINK you are drowning...so no real physical damage...no real pain...no disfigurement...its not like we are cutting peoples heads off...or sticking needles under fingernails....i am sorry i guess i just dont have much compassion ...i mean American lives were saved b/c a terroist was scared into talking? i mean 38 secounds of fear is all it was...and if american lives can be saved by scarying the hell out of bad guys so be it....i just cant see it as torture b/c there is no physical damage or mental damage...
2007-12-11
20:10:47
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yea ok maybe we should just ask nicely...please mr terriost will you give us vital info about your plans and operations....pretty please.........dweeb!
2007-12-11
20:31:56 ·
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so 38 secounds of thinking you are drowning is traumatizing someone?
get real!
2007-12-11
20:32:46 ·
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slicktop
we see eye to eye
2007-12-11
20:33:30 ·
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I think waterboarding is a form of torture, a mild form of torture but still torture. I'm disappointed that we don't skin those terrorists alive.
2007-12-11 22:56:45
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answered by Anonymous
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Of couse it is torture.
But everything is relative.
Everything you do to a detainee can be considered torture by some treehugging do gooder types. if you flew thousand dollar hookers down to gitmo each night for them one would complain about being tortured because the girl made fun of his little wiener or his premature ejaculation embarassed him in front of the other suicidal maniac terrorist.
Some people don't like Rap Music--so it's torture to them. (that would be me)
Others don't like to be held by Americans in Gitmo--so you could claim that is torture.
Look around the world--being beat, raped, or having a bayonet stuck through the back of your knee--are horrible things, I would say that any of those are torture.
But waterboarding is more psychological than real physical abuse.
and no matter what you do--somebody will always find a way to complain about it.
The Chinese and North Korean prisoners during the Korean war claimed that their rights were violated under the Genevea Conventions because the Americans did not give them Enough RICE at each meal--never mind that was more than NK soldiers still fighting were getting.
And then NKs were taking American soldiers out barefoot on frozen rivers where they poured water over their feet to "FREEZE" them to the rivers---for days.
So you have to look at it like this.
Since you can't please everyone---you have to do what you believe is the best way to gain information without offending your values and still follow the spirit of the Genevea Conventions--or any treaty your country has signed concerning treatment of enemy combatants.
Waterboarding can be legally defended in the UN (at least the Bush admin believes so), keeps America safe, and is acceptable to the present Executive branch--who is responsible for conducting war.
That is the best any president can ever hope to do.
Protect his country while still maintaining his beliefs and the TREATIES he is responsible for upholding as the President of the USA.
2007-12-11 21:12:58
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answered by kejjer 5
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sure Water boarding is torture , the technique has an extremely long and infamous historic past . It exchange right into a elementary interrogation technique in the process the Italian Inquisition of the 1500s and alter into utilized in Cambodian prisons in the process the reign of the Khmer Rouge regime in the process the Nineteen Seventies. As late as November 2005, water boarding exchange into on the CIA's record of licensed "more advantageous interrogation strategies" meant to be used against severe-value terror suspects. And in accordance to memos released by potential of the U.S. branch of Justice in April 2009, water boarding exchange into between 10 torture strategies licensed for the interrogation of an al-Qaida operative. particularly water boarding makes a individual sense like he's drowning that's a contravention of worldwide regulation which prohibits inhumane therapy of captives, additionally torture has been shown to be an unreliable approach of gathering tips, the incontrovertible fact that Marines are experienced to stand up to water boarding is evidence.
2016-10-11 03:05:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Compared to the tender mercies shown to US troops captured, waterboarding is a cake walk. Remember the two guys captured in early 2006 that were found dead. They had been tortured with power drills, had amputated digits, and no eyes, all perimortem. Yeah, we are real monsters compared to that. You'll never convince the left of this. It's to politically expedient to criticize the Bush administration for it. I have children (2 sons) in Iraq, and if running a little water down someones throat will make them safer, that's fine by me. They are lucky I'm not calling the shots, or things might be even tougher for people with information about our enemies.
2007-12-11 20:20:46
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answered by Anonymous
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The people screaming and yelling about this being a form of torture thinks if you deny them cable TV and a LazyBoy, this is also torture.
2007-12-11 22:35:21
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answered by Mutt 7
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torture is in the eye of the beholder. i say if it saves american lives why not. they would kill, torture beyond human imangination , rape and do whatever to us. i say do what you got to do to get the war over quicker and get out of there. i've seen worse and have heard of far worse. when you are dealing with thugs, gangmembers, and terriorist you got to show who's in charge and a lack of value for their life. and in that case a little force is needed mental or physical.
2007-12-11 20:47:09
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answered by Ida 5
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even if its consider torture,i totally agree with these methods like sleep deprivation,waterboarding etc.,so as to get whatever information necessary from these suspected terrorists.
2007-12-11 20:16:52
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answered by Pariah 5
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1- There is no such thing as "an X marine" (poseur)
2- you say "a bunch of water is pourded down your throat to make you THINK you are drowning" then try and spin it and say that there's "no real pain." DROWNING victims the world over know that's a bunch of nonsense!
The USA is supposed to be BETTER than the terrorists and bush and his apologists like you want to drag us dow to the terrorists level.
Pathetic.
2007-12-11 20:16:56
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answered by Anonymous
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It's a deliberate attempt to traumatize an individual. Sounds like torture to me.
2007-12-11 20:26:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes it is torture. We have recognized that for decades and have tried our enemies for war crimes when they used it against our troops.
2007-12-11 22:15:18
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answered by gunplumber_462 7
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