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Can one be a torturer and a peacemaker?

2007-12-11 17:05:23 · 11 answers · asked by Jackie Oh! 7 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

Hitler like our good president fancied himself a peacemaker and promoted himself as such. Read your history people before you get insulting.

2007-12-11 17:17:10 · update #1

Shirley-I disagree with you. The United States should always take the moral high ground, but your argument is logical and I respect that.

2007-12-11 17:19:47 · update #2

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Maybe Hitler taught his good buddy Prescot Bush the technique and he taught his son George Sr. who taught his son Dubya.

2007-12-11 17:13:57 · answer #1 · answered by joker_32605 7 · 6 2

No, one cannot be a torturer and a peacemaker at the same time. One might be a torturer while pretending to be a peacemaker. Hitler's secret police did brutal things. But water-boarding is horrible, too and against the Geneva Convention. And you said it best when you said the US should take the moral highground. By not doing that has lessened our status in World. Other countries do not respect us like they used to respect us. I can't understand why some people are sitting around scratching their heads and wondering why. The why is obvious!

2007-12-12 05:41:25 · answer #2 · answered by Lettie D 7 · 0 0

The Nazi s were not big on waterboarding. They preferred beatings delivered with fists or whips along with yanking out toe & finger nails with rusty pliers. When they did resort to using water it was usually pumped into the bowels via a rubber hose and several 'spy' thrillers lovingly described the victims lying face down their bodies grotesquely bloated by the water churning inside their bowels.
Also the Nazis rarely if ever exstended the olive branch. They were not into making Peace except the Peace that results from complete anihilation.

But NO one cannot promote Peace while administrating Torture and no matter what a majority of American's believe waterboarding is torture.

Peace......... o o o p p p o o o p p p o o o

PS //Oh and the ugly secret about torture that NO ONE wants you to know - - - - torture is inefficient it doesn't produce good clean results no less an authority then Nazi Reinhard Heydrich attested to that.

2007-12-12 01:24:00 · answer #3 · answered by JVHawai'i 7 · 1 0

What is with this waterboarding obsession lately?
Please people, this method of torture is so not even comparable to the hundreds of other ways that information is coerced from enemies.
To answer your question, yes, they can.
We have used far worse in the history of this country and yet were still hailed as one of the most civilized places to live. Police were still using rubber hoses and worse less than 100 years ago. The military was worse than that and we were considered light handed compared to everyone else in the world.
To speak to your leading comment, the Gestapo wouldn't have used waterboarding as a general rule because they didn't care about such low level torture techniques. They preferred electrical shock, the ever popular beatings and "good cop, bad cop" scenarios. They used drugs extensively and one of their favorites was a trick the KGB was famous for, which is arresting the entire family then torture or kill members while demanding information from one member.
Waterboarding is nothing in the pantheon of torture techniques.

2007-12-12 01:18:33 · answer #4 · answered by Talen 2 · 0 0

You know what, I'm not even going to write a four page essay on how wrong this question or some of it's answers are.

Hitler was a cruel malicious tyrant, and at no time did he ever attempt to acquire and kind of peace with anyone. He took he's rule as ultimate power and was one of the worst dictatorial leaders in history.

Comparing our retarded President, is going a little too far. He may have this country completely messed up and in need of serious treatment for several years, but he is nothing compared to the cruelty such as Hitler's.

Hitler killed his own people, in the worst manners imagined, far worse than water boarding, letting their corpses rot in the camps, starving jewish children, experimenting on two children to see the reactions each child had to certain forms of brutality, shaved their head, made them work in their factories, then putting large groups of women in gas chambers to stand there and die, and bury thousands in mass graves with no regard for human life.

I'm not trying to be insulting in any way, but I know my facts about history and my brother is one of the leading American War collectors in our state. As well as my god-mother grew up in WW2 Germany and her father was an SS officer who had to escape from Germany for helping prisoners and war criminals escape from prisons and camps. She's has showed me pictures of the parades where Hitler and his massive army marched the streets of Germany.

If I have any doughs about my information, then the books I've read are wrong. But the massive collection of authentic books I've review on all American combat, from 1776 thru the 1980's far extend the history books they give you in high school.
:-)

2007-12-12 14:03:01 · answer #5 · answered by ~* Garden Empress*~ 5 · 0 0

Are you saying that Hitler was a peace maker?

If I get it you are asking, can you torture people as a nation and still hold the moral high ground? The answer is No! It does not matter how many lolipops the child molester gives out. He's still morally reprehensible.

Somebody must have left your water board under the tap too long :)

2007-12-12 01:14:23 · answer #6 · answered by Citizen1984 6 · 1 1

I have heard a solider who underwent Water boarding for his survival training said it was effective but wasn't so bad. I would be all far it, if the terrorist had a Atomic Bomb hidden somewhere in a major city, or they were going to crash another plane into a building and the only way to find it was Water boarding, then so be it. LET THE WATER FALL!
If the only way to keep your citizens safe is to do anything you can, then so be it. I would do anything to keep my family safe, and you could say Americas citizens are the presidents family.

2007-12-12 01:37:41 · answer #7 · answered by Dutch 4 · 0 0

Water-boarding is for amatures! The average Gestapo interogator would have laughed at you for using such a childish method! If you weren't using piano wire, electricity, drugs and amputation, you weren't even in their league!

2007-12-12 01:15:57 · answer #8 · answered by John S 5 · 2 0

I don't like Bush & company & I'm all for his removal from office due to his deceit & total ineptitude, but to compare him to Hitler is simply ludicrous.

2007-12-12 14:35:52 · answer #9 · answered by The Wiz 7 · 0 0

To note, what the Gestapo did was far from waterboarding.

2007-12-12 01:11:03 · answer #10 · answered by m 4 · 1 1

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