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The 9/11 Truth movement is about wanting the government to answer questions...

Some very good questions.

They don't want answers from trailer-park theorists... they want answers from the US Federal Government and the mainstream media.

They haven't been given any answers that didn't end with some fairy-tale non sequitur...

Some of them might have some unique ideas about what "they think" happened... but the movement is about accountability and transparency...

If anything, the theory is "Their version doesn't exactly make sense..."

What's so strange and conspiratorial about that?

And have you ever seen the koo-koo birds who stop to yell at them on the street when they rally?

2007-12-11 12:50:06 · 18 answers · asked by rabble rouser 6 in Politics & Government Politics

Ok, so I guess everyone who answered wants to name-call instead of being specific about why...

I guess I'm the only person who bothers to watch videos and check out websites...

2007-12-11 12:59:04 · update #1

I'm gonna put best answer to a vote on this one... but please.... read ALL the answers before you vote.

2007-12-12 14:59:52 · update #2

18 answers

Newsflash. Many Dems think you're a fruit cake too. Boo ya!

2007-12-11 12:52:34 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 10 9

The truth is the real koolaid drinkers are the people who constantly call anyone who doesn't believe or follow the governments nonsense about 911, koolaid drinkers and tin foil hat wearers. I have never seen one piece of a plane in the field at Shanksville or the pentagon. The crater at the field was there 8 years before 911 happened. The pentagon had 8 cameras pointing at the front of the building where the alleged plane hit. They haven't released one photo from any of those cameras. Just the parking lot video of something small hitting the building. A 757 has eight rims in the landing gear, and 2 rims on the nose. Only one small rim was found . Do rims, engines, wings, body, doors, body's disintegrate in two places on the same day in 2 different locations? I think not. This is such a total cover up, and some day the truth will be revealed. Guess what. I am a total right wing, Ronald Reagan conservative republican and I can see the evidence that 911 was a total inside job, and major league cover up! Don't be a real koolaid drinker and follow the governments farse on the american people.

2007-12-11 13:34:06 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

Jet fuel only burns at 1,800 degrees under optimum conditions, & would have burned up in 15 seconds, & it takes 2,800 degrees to melt steel, so the Commission Report could not have been true, that the jet fuel weakened the steel girders, causing them to bend & buckle. Even if you want to believe that, every girder would have had to weaken at the same time, all 110 floors, to allow that building to collapse as quickly as it did and that is ridiculous to believe. How many floors do you think were on fire? The commission stated that the burning desks, plastics & paper also weakened the steel, but they only burn at 450 degrees which is nowhere near hot enough to damage steel. Steel is not melted or weakened in stoves or pots or pans. A Madrid towering inferno burned for well over 24 hours gutting the entire building but leaving the steel frame intact. There was no such inferno at the wtc and they didn't burn nearly as long. North tower burned for only 1hr 40min, South Tower less than 1 hour. Molten steel was seen flowing from the towers before it crashed and found at the base of all 3 buildings. Both the 2 main WTC buildings and Building 7 had Core columns cut at an angle and pools of molten steel found at base of all 3 buildings. Proof positive explosives were used to take them down.

2016-05-23 03:38:48 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

It is a conspiracy theory; they have a THEORY that the 9/11 attacks were part of a government CONSPIRACY. How can you not understand that?

This "trailer-park theorist" (actually I live in a very nice apartment) passed high school physics, so I can understand how the buildings fell. Hard science is more convincing than YouTube videos.

How many rebuttals are needed? Didn't Popular Mechanics cover this? Isn't that magazine considered "main stream media"? They were even on "Democracy Now!" with those three idiots from "Loose Change."

2007-12-11 15:12:09 · answer #4 · answered by wichitaor1 7 · 1 1

The main idea of the "9-11 truth movement" is that 9-11 was somehow a conspiracy of the US govt, or of others in the USA. That's why it's called a "conspiracy theory."

The term is not negative. It's just descriptive.
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Some points about the conspiracy theory:

1. The conspiracy folks have often attacked the Federal Reserve Bank.

I consider myself fairly knowledgeble in Economics, and I don't know what they are complaining about. All the Fed does is require banks to engage in safe practices, and it controls the money supply to stimulate the economy or curb inflation. I haven't heard a specific complaint except that the Fed has "enriched" bankers. This is completely untrue. And the Fed is not "private," It's part of the Federal Government & its operations are public. The complaint about the Fed leaves me scratching my head.

2. Operation Northwoods:

Northwoods was a proposed plan, in 1962, during the cold war, to fake an invasion by Cuba so we could attack Cuba.

Even though Cuba had thermonuclear missiles aimed at the US, & even though we all built fall-out shelters in case of WWIII, Operation Northwoods was STILL rejected by our government

If anything then, “Operation Northwoods” shows that the USA rejects the idea of faking an attack.

3. Loose Change:

The internet film “Loose Change” is a collection of falsehoods & distortions that tries to convince you that 9/11 was a conspiracy. The film has been totally refuted.
To see an explanation of any claim in the film, go to the massive website called “Screw Loose Change” which is at

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

The people who produce these internet films have utterly no qualifications (in engineering or demolition). On the other hand, there are numerous publications in scientific journals that reject the nonsense made up on “loose change”
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Some other points to show that the conspiracy theory is not factual:

CLAIM: No plane wreckage was found at the Pentagon
FACT: Clear wreckage of a plane was found & photographs were printed in all the papers. Here's a nice photo from 9/11 that clearly shows plane wreckage:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technolo...
(scroll down after clicking).

In addition the “American Society of Civil Engineers” (they’re non-governmental) investigated the Pentagon crash & issued this report:
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

The report contains abundant references to plane debris & body parts found in the Pentagon. The debris was clearly from a 757.

CLAIM; No jet wreckage was found at Shanksville
FACT: Large amounts of debris was found. Here are lots of photos of the debris:
http://911debunker.livejournal.com/7467.html#cutid1
The largest piece found was an engine fan.

CLAIM: The crater at Shanksville was there 8 years prior
FACT: Without credible proof, this absurd claim can be regarded as fiction.

CLAIM: . The pentagon had 8 cameras pointing at the front of the building where the alleged plane hit.
FACT: There was only one camera aimed at the impact site & the video was released long ago. I’d like to see where it says the Pentagon had 8 cameras pointed at this one spot.
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On top of all this, hundreds of witnesses, stuck on the interstate, saw the plane come in. Many saw it hit the Pentagon. Their names & testimony is a matter of public record. Any claims of a "missile" are nonsensical and beg the question, "Then where did Flight 77 & its passengers go, if it were a missile?"
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The Federal Reserve System is part of the Federal Government. The Board of Directors are Presidential appointees approved by Congress. See
http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/frseries/frseri.htm

The Fed had nothing to do with the Iran-Contra scandal. Look it up on Wikipedia.

2007-12-11 13:01:07 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Would you expect evil Republican Neocons to admit to anything other than that criminal Bush "is the best president". Neocons are against any truth. Truth for Republicans is the same as crucifix for Drakula. All their politics are based on pure lies and deliberately misleading propaganda. They keep smearing and demonizing an honorable people and keep cheering their criminal leader George Bush.

2007-12-11 13:00:48 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 3

You tinfoil hats have been given THOUSANDS of answers....photos of plane wreckage at the Pentagon, hundreds of eye witness testimonies; you've been told why the buildings collapsed by the ARCHITECTS who built the towers, on the show "NOVA"; you've been given testimony by the WORLD'S FOREMOST DEMOLITION EXPERTS as to why the video does NOT indicate any explosive devices; you've been given a detailed investigation as to the identities, motives and pre 9-11 movements of all 19 conspirators; you'v been given bin Laden's admission of guilt on videotape.

The problem is this:

YOU CONSPIRACY FREAKS DON'T LISTEN!!!!

And if I posted 300 sources, 10,000 websites, 100,000 documents, you STILL would go on babbling about streaks of light and what a fireman said and how you, the demolition expert, sees an explosion in a blurry video.

Give us A BREAK!

2007-12-11 13:01:44 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4 5

No you are not the only person who watches videos, etc. You are absolutely correct, and I also agree with Truth Seeker and Renegade! *sm*

2007-12-11 13:11:25 · answer #8 · answered by LadyZania 7 · 4 2

I'm pretty far from right wing, and the "truth movement" has very little truth in it.

If there were a vast conspiracy, someone would inevitably tell someone else. There would need to be just too many people involved to keep it a secret.

2007-12-11 12:56:23 · answer #9 · answered by Weise Ente 7 · 5 6

Conspiracy isn't a theory; it's a reality. Lots of people are marched off to prison every year guilty of conspiracy -- the majority of them Republicans.

The U.S. ruling-elite orchastrated 9-11 in order to promote the neocon agenda. They didn't steal the 2000 election for nothing. They had a plan in mind and, as they stated in thier handbook (PNAC), they needed "a new Pearl Harbor". . . and then they proceded to effect one in front of our very eyes. What I can't comprehend is how almost half of the American people believe the propagandists rather than believing their own eyes and sense of logic. The evidence overwhelmingly proves a government conspiracy, and our history is packed full of government conspiracies.

Loose Change
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&total=3938&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

Mainstream Media Treason
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3068002046571410986&q=Mainstream+Media+Treason&total=15&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


Among the most well-known recent conspiracies are the
2000 election, 9-11 (9-11 is a conspiracy even if the
government's account is taken at face value -- which,
of course, it shouldn't be), Iraq has weapons of mass
destruction, the 2004 election, Iran contra, CIA
introducing crack cocaine into the impoverished Black
neighborhoods of Los Angeles, Watergate, the Watergate
cover-up, the Savings and Loan scandal, Gulf of Tonkin
(never happened), the JFK assassination, the JFK
assassination cover-up Cointelpro, MKULTRA, Roosevelt
encouraged the attack on Pearl Harbor and knew the
Japanese were coming, Nixon/Kissinger involvement in
the overthrow of Salvadore Allende and installation of
Pinochet, Kermit Roosevelt and the overthrow of Iran's
democratically elected leader Mohammed Mossadeq, the
creation of the Federal Reserve(a private entity
created and organized under tremendous secrecy
designed to enrich a handful of bankers), the Robber
Baron's and their accumulation of great wealth by
conspiring with politicians to loot the treasury
during the building of the railroad. Other, long
forgotten conspiracies include the Credit Mobilier
Scandal and the Teapot Dome scandal. And I'm sure
there are many, many more.

Additionally, a 9-11 type of false-flag terrorism
event was previously planned in the the United States.
"Operation Northwoods was a 1962 plan by the US
Department of Defense to cause acts of simulated or
real terrorism and violence on US soil or against US
interests, blamed on Cuba, in order to generate U.S.
public support for military action against the Cuban
government of Fidel Castro. As part of the U.S.
government's Operation Mongoose anti-Castro
initiative, the plan, which was not implemented,
called for various false flag actions, including
simulated or real state-sponsored acts of terrorism
(such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The
plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense
leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer." (from Wikipedia)

These quotes by people in positions to know are quite
revealing of the fact that we live in a world
dominated by conspiracies among the well-connected and
powerful wealthy elite.


"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it
happens, you can bet it was planned that way." -
Franklin D. Roosevelt

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's
views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest
men in the United States —in the fields of commerce
and manufacturing—are afraid of somebody. They know
that there is a power somewhere so organized, so
subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so
pervasive, that they had better not speak above their
breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” -
Woodrow Wilson

“A financial element in the large centers has owned
the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.” -
Franklin Roosevelt

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All
we need is the right major crisis and the nations will
accept the New World Order.” - David Rockefeller

“Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered
Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be
grateful! This is especially true if they were told
that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether
real or promulgated, that threatened our very
existence. It is then that all people of the world
will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one
thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented
with this scenario, individual rights will be
willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their
well-being granted to them by the world government.” -
Henry Kissinger (Bilderburg Conference 1991 Evians,
France)

“Naturally the common people don't want war…but after
all, it is the leaders of the country who determine
policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship…all you have to do is to tell them they
are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
It works the same way in any country.” Herman Goering
( One of Hitler's top men, during the Nuremberg
Trials)

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it
exists." - J Edgar Hoover (FBI)

In 1913, Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve
Act. A few years later he wrote: "I am a most unhappy
man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great
industrial nation is controlled by its system of
credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The
growth of the nation, therefore, and all our
activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come
to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most
completely controlled and dominated Governments in the
civilized world no longer a Government by free
opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the
vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion
and duress of a small group of dominant men."


The easiest way to gain control of the population is
to carry out acts of terror. The public will clamor
for such laws if the personal security is threatened.
- Joseph Stalin


The real rulers of Washington are Invisible and
exercise power from behind the scenes. - Justice Felix
Frankfurter - US Supreme Court Justice

The real menace of our Republic is the invisible
Government which like a giant Octopus, sprawls its
slimy legs over our cities, states, and nation. - John
F. Hylan - Mayor NYC 1918-1925

"Give me control of a Nation's money and I care not
who makes the laws." - Mayer Amschel Bauer
(Rothschild)

"We shall have World Government. Whether or not we
like it. The only Question is whether World Government
will be achieved by conquest or consent." - James Paul
Warburg , Foreign agent for the Rothschild dynasty -
Major Player in the Federal Reserve act scam / Feb.
17, 1950 speaking before the U.S. Senate.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the NY Times,
Time Magazine, and other great publications whose
directors have attended our meetings, and respected
their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It
would have been impossible for us to develop OUR PLAN
for the world if we had been subjected to the lights
of publicity during those years. But, the world is now
more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a
World Government. The supranational sovereignty of an
intellectual ELITE and World Bankers is surely
preferable to the national auto - determination
practiced in past centuries." - David Rockefeller CFR
Kingpin, Founder of the Trilateral Commission, NOW
Godfather / June 1991

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not
understand our Banking and Monetary system, for if
they did, I believe there would be a Revolution before
tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford


"For more than a century, ideological extremists at
either end of the political spectrum have seized upon
well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller
family for the inordinate influence they claim we
wield over American political and economic
institutions. Some even believe we are part of a
secret cabal working against the best interests of the
United States, characterizing my family and me as
'internationalists' and of conspiring with others
around the world to build a more integrated global
political and economic structure - one world, if you
will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am
proud of it." - David Rockefeller, Memoirs , 2002

“Every time we do something, you tell me America will
do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you
something very clear: Don't worry about American
pressure on Israel . We, the Jewish people, control
America , and the Americans know it.” - Ariel Sharon ,
October 3, 2001

"I came to America because of the great, great freedom
which I heard existed in this country. I made a
mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a
mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my
lifetime." - Albert Einstein, 1947

"I believe that banking institutions are more
dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If
the American people ever allow private banks to
control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will
deprive the people of all property until their
children wake-up homeless on the continent their
fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken
from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it
properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson

1941: On November 25, 1941, two weeks before the
Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Secretary of War
Henry Stimson (S&B, CFR) wrote about his meeting with
President Roosevelt that day. He stated that the
Roosevelt Administration was trying to see how they
could maneuver the Japanese into firing the first shot
in order to bring the United States into the war. He
wrote: "There the President . . . brought up entirely
the relations with the Japanese. He brought up the
event that we were likely to be attacked perhaps next
Monday, for the Japanese are notorious for making an
attack without warning, and the question was what we
should do. The question was how we should maneuver
them into the position of firing the first shot
without allowing too much danger to ourselves."

2007-12-11 12:58:44 · answer #10 · answered by Mencken 5 · 6 3

"The fed isn't privately owned"? please prove that to me.
What about Iran contra?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ
Please explain that, Cogito Ergo Sum. I ask nicely.

2007-12-11 18:07:57 · answer #11 · answered by megnalon 4 · 1 0

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