Right or Wrong: Intelligence vs Liberties?

Question

This is a three part question that being practice right now in the so called "Free World"
Is it ok for government and law personel to break the law to enforce the law in certain situations ie National Security?
Should people give up some freedom to have more Nationl Security or should people give up more National Security to have more freedom? (Remember 911 and London)
Also do you think public media is the governments tool to divert or distract attention away from the "Truth" of whats going on in the world around us. ie World's resources are being depeleated, civil liberties are being overlook in the name of national security, and were on a collision course to a one world government due to greed. Yet there are many people who reather watch their favorite televison show, complain about Bush and Blair and this whole Iraq deal (We need oil we like our cars and toys) and do nothing about it. Is this due to the media training us to be a polar society or do we really care?

Answer 1

It's isn't okay, it just is. It does weaken the "moral resolve" of our rule of law.
People should be giving up security for freedom, especially since the other isn't really possible. More security just infringes on our rights, or changes the playing field, it doesn't keep us safer.

Media isn't the Gov's tool, Media is it's own out of control beast. But it's driven by us, the people. If we don't like the level of fear portrayed in the media, we should stop watching it.

People don't do anything about this because they're to broke, tired, and disillusioned to try. Protesting is for a well off society, that can afford to miss a day of work.

Answer 2

Until America has a serious investigation of 9/11 this question can not be resolved intellectually.

My point being there is strong evidence that 19 Arabs high jackers could not have carried this event out without the passive or indeed help of members of our own government at the highest levels.

How can one make a rational answer to an unresolved issue, this is sheep mentality.

Critical thinking people might wonder what has changed the U.S. flag into the logo of the corporate state? What has desecrated the former people's flag and morphed it into a symbol for the greed, corruption and avarice of the rich, wealthy class.

America was attacked not for its democratic values, but because those values, now corrupted, have permitted an unbridled corporate imperialism and an utter, hypocritical failure to pay any attention to the resulting global instability and suffering (just consider our exports of weapons around the globe). America as rogue nation exists at once at the extreme margins of civilized societies and at the center of international affairs.

The best time to maximize public anger is a few months before the bi-annual nation-wide congressional or presidential elections. An anger-filled October surprise works well. That way, the focus of the electorate is diverted away from the real causes of public angst, that is, away from the corrupt who are in power. These are the people whose only concern is coming in on top in the immensely deadly game of exploiting the world's natural resources and consolidation planetary control.

Answer 3

What do we seek to defend if not our liberies? I will fight if need be, But without open and free governance, society grows corrupt and unjust. That is why our founders gave us rights.

It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison
Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.
James Madison
Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
Thomas Jefferson


The wise man does not expose himself needlessly to danger, since there are few things for which he cares sufficiently; but he is willing, in great crises, to give even his life - knowing that under certain conditions it is not worthwhile to live.
Aristotle

Answer 4

Our freedoms and privacy should NEVER be abandoned for a sense of National Security. There is absolutely no way to keep us all safe from harm. National security is important, but there are ways to reasonably achieve it without creating a surveillance state.

Remember, we're much more likely to be killed by a gun-weilding American than a foreign terrorist. The only reason we're more scared of terrorists is because of the news, I think. Fear is corrupting our better judgment. If you read up on your history, you will find that some of the world's worst leaders used scare tactics to gain power and take away freedoms.

If we allow ourselves to be scared enough, we'll willingly embrace tyranny. And then the real trouble starts.

Answer 5

As in everything in life the answer is somewhere in the middle.We can only do our best to find the right balance on these important issues.
I do not think their is a "one world government" conspiracy in the works. You are crossing into Alex Jones territory if you believe that

Answer 6

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Feb 17, 1775

Didn't Ben Franklin get struck by lightning while flying a kite in a storm?

Answer 7

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Feb 17, 1775

Answer 8

We won't have any liberties if terrorist blow us to smithereens! I would give up some liberties to live in a safer world!