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but do you ladies really feel oppressed? Do you really feel that there is anything out there (assuming youre Western) that you cant do? Do you really feel that you're being held back because of your gender or are you just upset because everyone doesnt think like you? Not trying to be offensive but I dont feel particularly oppressed. If you do, please tell me why cause I would really like to hear it. Please no general, historical perspective. Concrete, modern, real-life first or at least second hand situations.

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Actually, the study is out and women are not paid at a lower rate than men anymore. Since that is actual and factual (please look it up dont take my word for it), are you going to readjust your thinking accordingly?

Really no need for profanity but thanks for answering anyway.

This is a fill in the blank question? I asked if other women felt oppressed and I asked for concrete examples of said oppression. The fact that you cant answer the question with any experiences that you may have witnessed does not mean that Im a man and I assure you that I am not. I'm just a woman who feels that the feminist movement as it stands is behind the times and is doing more harm than good. The movement has the same exact battle cry that it had in the 60's and the world that we live in is the world that existed during that time. If you think recognition of that calls my gender into question, so be it. I cant help but notice that you didnt answer the question.

Sorry is NOT the world that we lived in during that time. Its all getting a bit stale to me. Sorry if that offends you.

You guys are making a ton of assumptions about me based on my physical appearance - something that you claim to hate. I'm not complicite, Im just not feeling the oppresion. I interned and worked during college (just graduated in May) and I never felt that I was being treated differently than the men. I never felt that I was being hated, I just never felt what you women are desribing. I asked the question because I wanted to know why you feel the way that you do. I thought that was what this was for. Guess I was wrong.

When did I direct my comments to you? Get over yourself lady. I asked a question. You answered. End of story.

Unavailable the other comments were general but this one is especially for you - people like you don't fluster me, youre just some random person on line with a chip and bone to pick. I dont agree with you opinions and I have been respectful. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, you havent. Everyone doesnt think the way that you do and if you keep screecing like a fishmonger, (i.e. being every negative stereotype that has been attached to the feminist movement) you will get nowhere. You will accomplish nothing. You will alienate the people who are actually on your side such as myself. Im over this little exchange. I know you won't be able to help yourself and will post some other edit designed to get a reaction but whatevs. Youre entitled to your opinion just as I'm entitled to mine.

Answer 1

^^^ I can smell the ignorance from down here from "princesses" answer... without the suffragette's you wouldn't be working at all.
Please leave the gender issues to the people that are truly concerned with them, if you want to start a fight... go to the boxing section.

to answer... my sales manager has no respect for me or the owner of the company, because we are women. The owner is a push over and she allows his disrespect, where I, on the other hand don't appreciate it.
He has vocalized that he thinks women are weak, and that they would never be able to run a company as well as a man could. (owner didn't hear that one)
My conundrum is trying to win over a bigot, without my anger getting the better of me and to be honest, I feel kind of betrayed by my fellow women because I suffer the disrespect for no reason.

I don't consider myself a feminist, I consider myself a equalist, but I thank the feminist front-runners for some of my basic right today.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=equalist


EDIT: i ♥ ♀ & $... I gave my EXAMPLE as asked... the EXAMPLE demonstrates what countless other men I have come across think and express to me.
FYI - I consider myself a EQUALIST for the very reason you mentioned (men also being repressed).
I don’t even know why I bother explaining myself to you, I thought I did a good enough job the first time with the link, but if you want to label me a feminist, go right ahead.

EDIT: btw... I kinda agree with angie, but I also feel that feminism holds some value in today’s society. (for other women, since I am for equality, as an equalist, not to be confused with a feminist – redundant enough for you)
besides, who am I to tell feminists to jump off the wagon? that sounds like oppression to me.

I think its lol funny that we were asked about to share our experiences and then scrutinized for them... I find that comical.

Answer 2

Rio has picked up on an important point about the oppression of women. My view is that if you are sincere about eradicating it then you should leave the West and go to places where the oppression of women actually happens http://www.terrorismawareness.org/videos/108/the-violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam/
Some people still think there is a long way to go before women are free in the West, but then again some people are convinced that the Earth is ruled by shapeshifting aliens. I doubt that any amount of evidence will convince these people otherwise. Maybe some people just need something to kick against in order to feel they exist.

Zombie posted a link to an interesting discussion on the importance of clearly defining what is meant by 'oppression', and for feminists to be prepared to recognise cases where this kind of oppression is experienced by men too.

Answer 3

Right now, December 11, 2007, I do not personally feel oppressed. However, that doesn't mean I don't see attempts to oppress women almost every day in this forum. Most obvious---or maybe not so obvious---is in the language a few people use when they try to discredit a woman. Instead of attacking her ideas or the quality of her work they attack her looks or her weight. That is a subtle attempt to get women to not speak up. Granted, this type of oppression is pretty low on the list compared to what other women world-wide are facing but it's a strong indication that women are still not accepted as equals. When two guys, for example, are squaring off at each other you never hear one of them call the other one 'fat' or 'ugly?'

Answer 4

It doesn't matter what one study or even a few say. Just look at Global Warming...what a joke.

No, I don't feel oppressed, because I refuse to be oppressed.

Am I treated differently as a woman? Yes. Women and men ARE different after all.
Do some look down on women? A lot do.
Does that mean women should be paid less? No.
Are they? Yes.
Are there sexists out there? Yes, but move on. Discrimination is unfortunately everywhere.

FYI: Multiple studies have come out saying that a woman has to work twice as hard to get respect from co-workers and doesn't even get the same pay on average. Try googling it.

But, you may have a point. Women are oppressed only because they ALLOW it to happen. That's why feminists came out. Granted, they've gone off the deep end now, but they have done a lot for women, who were taught their place.

Now, we MAKE our own place. Women and men are equal, but they are different, too. That doesn't mean either one should be treated badly because of it. Period. End of Story.

Answer 5

Both Edit: You either have been taught the once saved always saved doctrine of demons or you just don't understand what the Holy Spirit was meaning in Jn. 5v18. When He says that no one born of God "sins".....it is a referring too a continuous lifestyle of unrighteousness. If you will read the preceding verses it makes it clear that He is speaking to brothers in the Lord. If you will read the entire 8th chpt. in the book of Romans you will see a much clearer definition of what God calls a true follower of Jesus Christ which identifies him or her as a child of God . God will never take away our freewill! That is why in any and all places that salvation is mentioned it is always predicated by "if we remain in... or that we "might be" saved...or the promise of Salvation is to those who are "overcomers". As long as we do this as Jesus commanded, "if you want to be My disciples, Deny yourself, pick up your Cross and Follow Him in everything".

Answer 6

I turn my back for two seconds and you're already stirring up drama. Shouldn't you be getting ready to leave anyway?

I don't feel oppressed either but you already know that.

Wow, unavailable. You're that chick that turned the entire campus against feminists. I'm not attacking you because I don't know you personally but maybe you should re-read everything that went down here. You're just going for everyone throat for no apparent reason - maybe you're having a bad day. This is just yahoo answers. Lighten up, its not that serious.

Answer 7

I am not a woman but nevertheless I should like to address the question if you don't mind.

Women are not oppressed by men, the only ones who keep prating on saying things like that are the feminits because they hate everyone pperhaps even themselves.

The real truth is that men and women are both oppressed. By the over-wealthy, the over-mighty, and the over-powerful business corporations and foundation. Those kinds of people don't give a fick about any of us, they laugh at us all, they are takers not givers.

POSTSCRIPT

[unavailable] It wasn't feminitism which gave women the vote, feminitism was just a part of a greater movement of ordinary men and women and it was the greater movement which delivered. And this was at a time when neither men or women could vote unless they were property owners.

Answer 8

Actually, yes. My own father crushed my dream of becoming a police officer when I was eighteen. I come from a long line of police officers in my family. I wanted to be one, too. But my dad sat me down (when I was 18) and told me that women weren't welcome on the police force. He said that because women weren't as physically capable as men, women were a danger (a liability) to others on the police force and to the people they'd be protecting. He said that policemen didn't want a woman as a partner. He said I wouldn't be happy working in that kind of environment, where discrimination and prejudice against women police officers was rampant. He was a Seattle cop, and had worked in the field for many, many years....his father a police chief...his brothers also cops...so I believed him. I had no reason not to. He told me these things because he was looking out for my well-being. He honestly thought I wouldn't be happy working in that environment. He said that many women on the force weren't happy. I had no reason to believe he wasn't telling me the truth. So I gave up my dream of becoming a police officer.

So yes, there's still discrimination, there's still prejudice. Not only in society, but apparently even in my own family.

Sad, but true.

EDIT: And by the way, apparently, according to what I've myself observed, there are many police officers who are also very racially prejudiced, as well.

Answer 9

Concrete, modern day...first hand perspective....
hell naww....no oppression what so ever.
In FACT...the only time it has ever been unfortunate to be a woman in the workplace, for me...was when I had a FEMALE manager who totally favored men and disregarded us women.
I have never felt oppressed or held back by a man, no.
(minus the occasional jealous boyfriend).

Answer 10

Not at all. I love what I do and feel I have made positive decisions through out life. And people can see that. I think if you show you support your own choices others will not second guess you.Its about confidence in yourself and what you do.

EDIT- I love that quote Mickey