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what also do you think would have happened if the Japanese or Germans would have invaded our homeland?

2007-12-10 14:23:02 · 7 answers · asked by Alex 3 in Arts & Humanities History

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We'd all be speaking German now.

2007-12-10 14:31:56 · answer #1 · answered by Peter D 2 · 1 4

If DDay had failed the Allies might have concentrated on moving more men in through Italy since they were already there and were pushing the Germans back. The Soviet Union was beating the Germans back by June of 1944 so probably more of Europe would have been under the Iron Curtain after WWII than there was. Germany was already pretty much headed for defeat by that time it might have just taken longer. Possibly an atom bomb could have been dropped on Germany but I seriously doubt it. Germany was jsut getting too weak to warrant that. Germany would probably have tried much more to make peace with the Americans or British to keep the Soviets out of Germany.
As for an invasion of America....I don't know... it would be so unlikely...way too many logistics involved to make that possible. Crossing the Atlantic or Pacific with an invasion fleet would be nearly impossible to keep secret and would make them very vulnerable during the crossing. The Japanese made it to some of the Aleutian Islands (Attu I believe) Even if they had been victorious there I don't think they could have launched any kind of invasion of America. The best chance of that happening would have been with the attack on Pearl Harbor. MAYBE an invasion fleet wouldn't have been spotted early enough to make it to say California. America certainly didn't have the defensive measures that the Germans had on the French coast. If the invasion manged to get a foothold in California, it would have been eventually beat back into the sea. Japan is just too far away for logistic support. America is just too big and too far away.

2007-12-10 15:01:42 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The end was near for Germany anyway. The Allies were in Italy pushing north and the Red Army had worn the German down to the bone. D Day was launched because of pressure from the Russians to ease the burden on the Red Army. Also the French, Dutch, Belgian etc governments weren't keen to be occupied by the Russians. If D Day had failed the war would have lasted a little longer.

2016-05-22 23:19:23 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

It depends on how badly the invasion fails. If its called off because of weather or in the first couple days after the landing, it would probably only delay the outcome of the war by a few months. The Soviets had 75% of Germany's fighting strength tied up on the eastern front in the summer of 1944, with the Germans reeling back after major defeats. The western allies would surely attempt another landing later in the summer of 44, probably in July or August.

The Japanese and the Germans didn't have the logistical resources to invade the U.S mainland. Hitler couldn't get his army across the English Channel, how could he get it thousands of miles across the Atlantic? Japan was completely tied up in the pacific with her natural resource at the breaking point. Tens of thousands of troops were tied up in occupation duty in Manchuria and the pacific island garrisons.

2007-12-10 15:06:17 · answer #4 · answered by Ross 3 · 0 0

If D-Day had failed, there would have been a lot of dead troops to bury.

The Allies would have re-grouped, enlisted more troops, and tried again.

England would have been in more danger, but not the US. The Germans simply didn't have the firepower and naval or air power to get their troops to the US. Same thing with the Japanese.

The only thing that would have turned the tide in favor of the Germans was the nuclear bomb in their hands first. It didn't happen.

2007-12-10 14:59:50 · answer #5 · answered by loryntoo 7 · 0 0

It would have prolonged the war by some years and resulted in the Russians occupying most of Europe.
What is your homeland? Impossible to answer without knowing this

2007-12-10 17:36:09 · answer #6 · answered by brainstorm 7 · 0 0

~If D-Day failed, assuming you are referring to the D-Day which kicked off Operation Overlord and the Normandy Invasion on June 6, 1944, (there were innumerable others), the Soviets would have still won the war. The US contribution to the victory over the Third Reich was nominal. Europe may look different today, as Churchill and Roosevelt wouldn't have had too much to say about what Stalin did, but Germany would have been defeated.

The conclusion of the war was all but decided at Leningrad. After Smolensk II and Kursk, it was simply a matter of time and Red Army tanks. And Soviet troops, Soviet command and Soviet tanks were proven time and again to be the best in the field during the war.

John Wayne might disagree, but the facts speak for themselves. The Red Army lost 10 MILLION troops and 15 MILLION civilians. The Germans lost about 3 MILLION troops and 4 MILLION civilians. The US lost around 1,500 KIA and 5,000 wounded captured or missing at Normandy. Total US troop dead, in both the Europe and the Pacific combined numbered around 300 thousand. British losses were about 325,000 and about 60,000 civilians.

And no, the Russian winter did not beat the Germans. Kursk and Smolensk were fought between July and September, 1943 (the Red Army faced 1.3 MILLION of Germany's elite troops at Kursk and another 850,000 at Smolensk II, as opposed to the 380,000 second and third rate troops that the US and company faced at Normandy - and many of them were not released to join the battle.) One place the weather did come into play was during the Soviet Operation Mars. Not only did German spies ferret out the plans and schedule for the offensive, but the operation was launched too late (November 30, 1942). When the Volga and Vanuza froze, Zhukov could not maintain his supply lines. The Red Army lost 335,000 men, more than the US total in the entire war on both fronts, in that one battle over a span less than three weeks. Yeah, the winter played a major role - squarely on the side of the Germans. Begun a little earlier and in decent weather, Operation Uranus was a resounding Soviet success and ultimately resulted in the surrender of Paulus and the entire Sixth Army. Had Mars succeeded, the war would have been over with in December, 1943, at the latest - probably by summer '43.

While Kursk was being fought, the allies were just landing on Sicily. Resistance to Operation Husky? 40,000 Germans and 365,000 Italians. No offense to the Italians, but they weren't much of a fighting force (their ineptitude was why Hitler formed the Afrika Corps and sent Rommel to Africa for in the first place. The best troops of the Afrika Corps, as well as Rommel's replacements and equipment had long since been sent to the eastern front. At El Alamein II, Rommel had all of 116,000 men, and they were far from Germany's best. The good troops were needed where the real fighting was - on the Eastern front. At Kasserine Pass, Rommel only had 22,000 men.

The US never got into the fight until Operation Torch in November 1942. Churchill had told FDR that the only force in the world that could take on the Wehrmacht in a war on the continent was the Red Army. Roosevelt wisely listened and the US started its part in the war in North Africa. Given that Rommel could not be supported and his replacement troops, reinforcements, spare parts, ammunition, tanks fuel and other necessary supplies had already been curtailed and diverted to the Volga, and Montgomery, Alexander and Auchinleck had already been kicking his butt fairly well, Rommel's defeat was a certainty before the first American shot was fired. The Soviets would continue to force Hitler to draw off men, arms and equipment from the forces the western allies would meet to and beyond Normandy.

Those numbers and simple basic facts should tell you who fought and won the war in Europe.

The Germans would not have invaded the US. That was never in their game plan. Assuming they could have beaten the Red Army (and that assumption is a joke) they probably would have gotten the bomb first. They surely would have developed a delivery system first. But for Werner Von Braun and the other Nazis we took in Operation Paperclip, we'd never have made it to the moon in 1969. Hitler knew that without tenable supply lines, he could never mount an invasion in North America, just as FDR knew that without bases in England, the US couldn't sustain a war in Europe. That is why the US consistently violated its claimed neutrality between '39 and the German declaration of war on 12/11/41, and that is why the fiction of neutrality took us from the Neutrality Acts to Cash and Carry to Boats for Bases to Lend Lease, and why FDR gave up all pretense of neutrality and on 9/11/41 announced that he had issued orders to sink all German warships on sight, without provocation, if they were detected in our 'defensive' waters, which he claimed reached across the Atlantic to the coast of Ireland.

The Japanese had no intention of invading the US either. The war in Asia started with the Marco Polo Bridge incident in 1937. Actually, it began with the Manchurian invasion in '31, but it didn't heat up good for the first 6 years. Again, the US claimed neutrality, but clearly chose sides. The Japanese knew the US was sending supplies, war materials and even troops (like Claire Chennault.'s Flying Tigers) to China for use against Japan. Japan complained regularly about US treaty violations in the Pacific. The US never denied Japanese claims but instead offered bogus 'justifications' for the violations. The US beefed up bases in Subic Bay, Clark Field, Pearl Harbor, Midway and Guam, all of which were a direct threat to Japanese security. The trade embargoes of food and essential goods were designed to cripple Japanese industry and keep her from becoming an industrial power. Arms limitations agreements forced on Japan were intended to keep her subservient to the West and especially to protect the US and British imperial empires in the Pacific and Indonesia and the French fiefdoms in Indochina. The last straw was when FDR ordered MacArthur back to active duty and sent him and the newly formed United States Armed Forces in the Far East to the Philippines in November, 1941.

The Japanese knew they could not win a prolonged war against the US. They also knew that war was coming and the US refusal to negotiate, coupled with the treaty violations, increasing military presence and upgrading of bases poised to strike at Japan, as well as the continuing US aid puring into China for use against Japan by the 'neutral' US' made it only too clear that Japan had two choices: fight an offensive war or fight a defensive war. Subjecting herself to the beck and call and every whim of Uncle Sam was not an option. That didn't work when Matthew Perry and his Black Ships had forced Tokugawa Ieyoshi to succumb to draconian US demands in 1854, and the boot of US oppression had been on Japan's throat ever since.

Hideki Tojo and Isoroku Yamamoto put their heads together. They devised a plan which neither of them had but the faintest hope would succeed. If they could neutralize the US Pacific presense in a sudden and complete victory by taking out the Pacific fleet, they hoped, they might force Washington to the peace table and might produce rational trade agreement and actual rather than pretended American neutrality in the war. Enter Pearl Harbor and the other targets hit on December 7.

Had the carriers been in port, had Yamamoto gone after Midway on his way home, had Nagumo listened to the advice of Genda and launched the thrid wave against the sub pens, fuel storage, drydock and maintenance facilities at Pearl, the plan may have worked. Yamamoto thought that at best he could buy the 6 months to a year the Japan needed to get the oil supplies of the Dutch East Indies by putting the US Pacific Fleet out of service. At no time did the plan anticipate an invasion of the US. As a Harvard graduate and an alum of the U.S. Naval War College, Yamamoto was neither stupid nor a fool. Japan was simply trying to protect her sphere of influence and to obtain the natural resource and food she needed to survive and prosper, much like what the US had done during the genocidal campaign against the Indians or as the British and French had done in subjugating Asia, Africa and Indonesia.

Had the US truly been neutral, the world would be a different place today. But make no mistake, the Nazis would have fallen and Japan would have been content with her empire in the east.

2007-12-10 17:38:17 · answer #7 · answered by Oscar Himpflewitz 7 · 4 0

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