How Many Ron Paul Supporters Think The Media Is Lying About His Single-Digit Polling Support ?

Question

I had the weirdest and wildest conversation with a Ron Paul supporter last week . Amongst other crazy notions , she said that it's clear that the media doesn't want him to win and therefore "EVERY media outlet is lying when they post poll results which show he has single-digit support" . Many on this site have made that very same claim . So I asked her. . . . "What if , AFTER the initial primaries, Ron Paul only garners a single-digit VOTING support ? What then ? Will you then admit that it is you who have been fooled and lied to ?"

Cmon Ron Paul people , wake-up .

To Ron Paul Supporters -- Will You Admit That There Is No Media Conspiracy AFTER Paul Only Gets Minimal Primary Votes ?. . . If Not , Then Please Enlighten Us To What Type Of 'Logic' You'll Apply Then ?

Caldude - FYI , this woman is 70 yrs. old . And she states that many of her senior community friends feel the same way . So there goes the 'youth support theory' .

Caldude - No , that's not why I don't take Ron Paul seriously . I don't support him for this one eensie beensie reason -- He wants to abolish the CIA , the FBI , and Homeland Security . That's INSANITY .

Answer 1

Ron Paul is leading in every candidate poll that I've found online. However, the media still ignores him. In addition, as a previous poster already mentioned, Ron Paul has raised the most compaign contributions in a single day and is leading in campaign contributions this quarter. The media cannot and will not keep us down.

Answer 2

Well we can use case in point the fake FEMA conference that was recently exposed. The ways that the media can be manipulated and controlled by the government are almost infinite and very possible. The only difference between the conservative and the liberal NWO conspiracy theories is that conservatives believe it to be a conspiracy based on religion and the rise of the antichrist, whereas the liberals believe it is purely mankind perpertrating the evil big brother scenario. Both are the part of society that support Ron Paul because whether it's religious or not or even a conspiracy, the government does have too much influence on the media and visa-versa. Can you prove that the media is not being manipulated? Can you prove that the government is not controlling the information that you get on the 6:00 news?
There is much more evidence that points to the contrary.

Edit: Oh yeah I almost forgot. I was phone polled the other day and they named a list of republican candidates to pick it was press 6 for any other candidate they didn't name. Paul was one that wasn't named and when I pressed 6 the recording said "We're sorry for your inconvenience and won't bother you again."

Answer 3

There was an AP article in my local paper yesterday (it was AP so it should have been in most newspapers) stating that because of cell phones, caller ID, incoming call blocking, and "do not call" lists, it is getting much more difficult and expensive to do telephone polls.

And the people being polled are not necessarily representative of the voting public, since most older and elderly people don't use this technology.

Paul's supporters tend to be younger and on the internet.

Does this mean he is polling lower than he actually should be?

Who knows? But it is one explanation for it.


edit: I have been talking about Ron Paul to my 70 year old Republican parents and they are slowly leaning his way. Word of mouth is the only way he can win.

Just remember, Bill Clinton only polled at 2-3% in 1992 and the results of that are clear.

The question being, why are you so anti-Ron Paul? After all, he constantly and continually without a wavering message, espouses the ideals and platform of the traditional Republican party. Or are you just a big govt. socialist underneath?


2nd edit: The insanity is spending billions of taxpayer dollars to support govt. entities that do a crappy job. Homeland Security deserves an F for all the money they spend. I've been hearing about the deficiencies in the CIA regarding the recent NIE and Saddam's WMD capability, yet we spend billions for this info. annually. So what is the problem? Not enough money?

Also, Paul wants to do away with the IRS and the Dept. of Education? You against that as well?

Lets be realisitic, there is no way that Congress will allow the abolishment of these agencies. But at least Paul will have the bully pulpit to make some realistic changes to these overbloated buracracies.

Answer 4

I don't think the media is lying about Ron Paul's poll numbers, but I do believe the numbers they report are representatively lower than a true statistical sampling would uncover. The reason is because Ron Paul is not a traditional candidate. He is off the radar and not easily tracked by demographics as easily other candidates are. As Caldude mentioned, a lot of the data collection methods for polls are less accurate today due to cell phones, the types of people available to answer polls (DNC is negligible as pollsters are exempt from do-not-call restrictions) and the general nature of the demographic that typically gets polled. I work for a company that generates these phone numbers, and the big political houses and pollsters (like Gallup, one of our biggest clients) use our data for their polls and surveys. They know how gathering this data gets to be more of a problem as people's habits and technology changes. Their methods are slow to adapt, and partially because they don't care if their data is slightly off because concerning the front-runners, it's accurate enough to be true.

Answer 5

Strangely enough Paulites point to polls where some how Paul has astronomical positive votes, but the ones they point to allow you to vote multiple times. any other poll where you can only vote once he remains at the bottom of the list and the Pualites scream "CONSPIRACY!"

The will probably claim that the "Israelis", "Zionists", Branden burgers, Main stream media, Bush or some other group infiltrated the election and rigged it so he would lose.

It is very scary to think these people see them selves as "normal".

I made a bet saying if Paul won the primaries I would wear a sign around my neck sponsoring Paul... I still feel it was a very safe bet and am in no rush to fit my self up with a sign any time soon.

Answer 6

The media is singling him out it's very well documented on film via alternative news sites and YouTube. It's not Just Ron Paul though, it's all the anti-war candidates.

If he doesn't get the primary I'll live because then it will be confirmed that the media decides your candidates and then you get to choose the least of two evils who just happen to work for the military industrial complex.

I started to document the conspiracy but it really just started to take up too much of my time. You can look at my blog entry called "The Media vs The American People."

http://undertheradarmedia.blogspot.com/2007/11/mainstream-media-vs-american-people.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c4_1197124016

Answer 7

If you knew anything about Ron Paul you would understand why they don't mention that only 5% of all americans voted in last the last primaries and more than 5% have donated money to his campaign. He is far beyond any of the GOP candidates in fundraising this quarter and has raised a record amt in one day. Why can't you just do your own research and see what he stands for. This will answer your question.

Answer 8

I'll keep my answer short, I support Ron Paul and no I don't believe he's polling low because of any "media conspiracies" If he fails to receive the republican nomination, I'll accept it and move on with my life.

As for the CIA/FBI, you really need to do a fact check.. There are many different intelligence gathering agencies. He wants to end the bureaucracy and consolidate.. not abolish them..

And he wants to fold the functions of Homeland Security into the Defense.

Answer 9

All of the Ron Paul supports don't believe the polling numbers. You know what? If Ron Paul runs as an independent it will only hurt the Democrats since he will be mostly taking Dem votes and not Republican ones anyway.

Answer 10

I do not think they are lying about the polls. However I do know that polls are wildly off course.

Cell phones, and caller ids, and do not call lists are relatively a new, major factor in who does, and who dosent get polled. Add to that, some have said that Ron Paul is not even included in the choices.

Add to that pollsters have been paid to take a poll, and to get results they want. Search youtube for FRANK LUNTZ (who was a fox news pollster at the first debate who was obviously promoting giuliani). From pollster frank luntz own mouth, "We are paid to ask questions using the words that get the desired results." Frank Luntz during the first presidential debate on fox asked a live group "How many of you think Giuliani won the debate?" (a small number of hands went up about 15%. Then a commercial break. Then coming back, Frank Luntz said "Let me rephraze that last question. How many of you think Giuliani is the best candidate to beat Hillary Clinton" (everyone raises their hands) "Giuliani is obviously the clear winner of the debate tonight", then they go to another commercial.

You can find t hat all on youtube. FRANK LUNTZ. See POLLING RELIABILITY in action.

Therefore, the polling data is incorrect, and has unjust influence on some peoples selection (since many just want to pick "a winner")

1) Ask EVERYONE you know, young and old. See how many timed they have been phone polled.

2) Find the data regarding age, and employment of those who take the poll. Show me how diverse, and comparable to the diversity of America it is.