Will somebody please tell me why this doesn't add up?

Question

1)We dump millions of tons of organic gasses into the atmosphere (CO, CO2, CH4)

2)The earth's rate of warming is increasing. You may say that the Earth is warming up due to natural causes. HOWEVER, the rate of change is unnaturally increasing. The d²T/dt² is relatively large, if you will. Not such that of a N.E.O collision, but certianly more than the given natural causes.

3)Current models show that organic gasses generally increase average temperature. Look at Venus.

4)Al Gore is a hypocrite. However, this does not effect scientific data.

5)Yes, nature gives off green house gasses, and yes it may cause a drift of global warming. But, according to Lovelock's Gaia theory, it shoudln't have an effect to have a rapid change of slow heating to quicker heating.

6)You can debate that people use this to get money. However, the data is still there and personal intentions do not change scientific data.

7)Please don't bring up the global cooling theory from the 70's. It's silly

Abu#2 , I have my sources. They aren't electronic though. If you wish, I can bring them up.

Jesus Jones:
Organic gasses are gases composed of carbon (organic molecules). The organic term is a misnomer, but they are on Venus. Methane is an organic material.

Answer 1

Some may deny that man is the cause but, how can anyone deny that man is compounding and, exacerbating the problem.
Also just so you know one of the main concerns of global warming is a change in the flow of the Gulf Stream. Which could in fact instead of causing a gradual warming spawn a new ice age.

Answer 2

You have to remember that this is coming from a party where it's an open question whether the universe was created 6,000 years ago. If you can deny the scientific evidence on evolution, disputing global warming is pretty much child's play.

This is hardly a unique position for modern Republicans. It's a mainstream, perhaps a consensus, position in the party that reducing taxes increases government revenue. Around 2001, the Republican congress passed a bill that actually requires any sex education program that receives federal funding to teach the false claim that condoms are not an effective contraceptive. A few years later, the Senate Majority leader, who was also a practicing physician, pretended on Meet the Press that he believed it was possible to get AIDS from a towel.

The modern conservative movement doesn't particularly have a quarrel with the science on global warming. They have a quarrel with science.

Answer 3

New studies indicate the sun is driving temperature changes, not humans.

NASA has proven the sun caused the world to leave the great ice age in less than 20 years. That is extremely fast from a geological standpoint.

In the 1900's, CO2 increased while temperatures fell for over 20 years. This is 5 minute documentary on climate change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVDugSuPOo

Many English schools are now forbidden from playing "An Inconvenient Truth" in classrooms. There are over 10 misleading mistakes in the movie and most of the "mistakes" look like they were put in the movie on purpose.

One scientist predicts a deep freeze by 2060. Complex analysis of climate change is predicting global cooling.
"the Earth will be facing a slow decrease intemperatures in 2012-2015. The gradual cooling will reach itsmaximum by 2040, and lead to a deep freeze around 2050 to2060."
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/20_1-2_CO2_Scandal.pdf

A scientific explanation for climate change:
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202004/Winter2003-4/global_warming.pdf

Answer 4

I wish I had time to hit every point, but here's a couple of responses:

1. For every bit of data you amass, there can be equally valid data contradicting your point.

2. Until Al Gore actually debates a qualified climatologist, geologist, economist, etc., he has no credibility with me. It is suspicious that he will release a movie, appear on Oprah and make speeches, but he will not debate anybody.

3. I don't think there are organic gasses on Venus since there has never been life on Venus. Maybe you mean something else.

4. I think it is perfectly valid to mention the global cooling theory of the 70s. The same proponents of global warming warned us of global cooling, the population bomb, that our oceans would disappear by the 1990s...Their "sky is falling" rhetoric since the 1950s calls into question either their motives of their judgment.

Answer 5

We effect the co2 level by 1 part per 100,000 every 5 years. Co2 has almost no effect on warming. The numbers you have relied upon (the hockey stick graph) have been proven false. We ARE not rising in temperature faster than normal. Look at the true history of temperature variations. Temperatures in the past have NOT risen because of CO2 level rises, CO2 levels rise AFTER temperature rises. We are a year or two away from most people realizing there is absolutely no evidence of man-made global warming. If so, why have temperatures been rising since before we emitted any significant CO2? Why are we so much cooler than many other times in history? Why did temperatures drop between the 40's and 70's? GET THE FACTS!

You do realize that the warming began at the end of the little ice age right? Isn't it normal for the earth to warm at the end of an ice age?

Answer 6

If you think the global cooling theory is silly then you shouldn't bring up the subject at all. There is as much data to debunk global warming theories as there are trying to prove it.

Answer 7

Your last sentence of point number two is purely speculative and vague. Since we lack a control experiment and our sample size is exatly one, we are left in the dark. I am leery of concluding that humans are influencing the climate.

Answer 8

Sorry more propaganda. We do effect the earth just not at the scope some like you say.

Answer 9

it adds up, but from a scientific viewpoint. conservatives aren't too big on facts, and books, and science, and education. they prefer to use intuition ("saddam is an imminent threat, saddam has wmds" etc.)

Answer 10

What's really silly is you still have no source. It's even more silly to think the earth doesn't warm and cool in cycles. I don't think the dinosaurs were bitching about people not driving hybrids.

Email them to me then. I have a library card. I want page numbers too.