Are these socialist concerns only ?

Question

How can we improve the lives of the masses

How can we ensure basic needs of all in our society

How do we end economic classisim ?

Who watches the watchers

If these are concerns and questions of the socialist am I to take from it that the ultra capitolists or pure capitolists

Do not care about the masses that is not my problem

The basic needs of others - someone elses problem just starve quietly if you must

And the rich need slaves desperate to trade labour for subsitance so why end economic classisim - It'sgreat for at least 10 - 15 % of the population

Who watches the watchers ?

The corperations who pay them like the CEO watches Blackwater -

No problem there

Bush family member

Do you or anyone at all in your family answer the question put to them or just the question you would have prefered to have been asked ?

A Bush Family Member

Thats right not one socialist nation in Europe ever invented a dam thing

They waited until 1776 and then just got the Americans to do it for them

1775 Nothing 1776 America invented gravity and everything else in the world as we know it because America is capitolist

Thank god for that

Dead Marxist

Wow I was unaware that spreading concern for the welfare of my fellow citizens was a "threat"

From now on should I tell all peoples everywhere the welfare of the people and expressing concerns therof is the only virtous path and that Jesus actually meant

Love yourself and mind your own business when it comes to others ?

Answer 1

Those concerns might be shared by others but Democratic socialism is the only way the problems you raise will ever get better.
The reactionary right has had its time. Capitalism kills daily around the world. There is an alternative! Freedom to starve is not freedom worth having. Our freedom to own six cars should not come before the right of a kid in Africa to eat and that's the reality of those who defend jungle capitalism and inequality in the name of "freedom" That's not freedom, its barberry.

Freedom, Justice and Solidarity

12. Democratic socialism is an international movement for freedom, social justice and solidarity. Its goal is to achieve a peaceful world where these basic values can be enhanced and where each individual can live a meaningful life with the full development of his or her personality and talents and with the guarantee of human and civil rights in a democratic framework of society.

13. Freedom is the product of both individual and cooperative efforts - the two aspects are parts of a single process. Each person has the right to be free of political coercion and also to the greatest chance to act in pursuit of individual goals and to fulfil personal potential. But that is only possible if humanity as a whole succeeds in its long-standing struggle to master its history and to ensure that no person, class, sex, religion or race becomes the servant of another.

14. Justice and Equality. Justice means the end of all discrimination against individuals, and the equality of rights and opportunities. It demands compensation for physical, mental and social inequalities, and freedom from dependence on either the owners of the means of production or the holders of political power.

Equality is the expression of the equal value of all human beings and the precondition for the free development of the human personality. Basic economic, social and cultural equality is essential for individual diversity and social progress.

Freedom and equality are not contradictory. Equality is the condition for the development of individual personality. Equality and personal freedom are indivisible.

15. Solidarity is all-encompassing and global. It is the practical expression of common humanity and of the sense of compassion with the victims of injustice. Solidarity is rightly stressed and celebrated by all major humanist traditions. In the present era of unprecedented interdependence between individuals and nations, solidarity gains an enhanced significance since it is imperative for human survival.

16. Democratic socialists attach equal importance to these fundamental principles. They are interdependent. Each is a prerequisite of the other. As opposed to this position, Liberals and Conservatives have placed the main emphasis on individual liberty at the expense of justice and solidarity while Communists have claimed to achieve equality and solidarity, but at the expense of freedom.

Answer 2

I think one of the major reasons the US has been so successful is that for 200 years they had an incredible wealth of natural resources. Capitalism has a rape and pillage kind of mentality, so eventually we need to find new places to acquire raw materials. When do we have to accept the consequences of our actions? So when does the US become rich enough?

So Bushie, socialist or quasi-socialist nations like Germany, France, England, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Japan haven't come up with ANY innovations in the last 100 years?

Is there a point where a nation of billionaires realize that there is no such thing as a self-made man and give back to society? BTW, many of the wealthiest people in this country did nothing but be born to wealthy parents.

It is the height of delusion to hold on to this myth that in this country, if you work, you succeed, and if you are poor, you're just too lazy to work. Most of the govt aid in this country goes to people who do work, but can't survive on their income. The biggest shame of our wealthy nation is our working poor.

Dead Marxist "Reaching into the pocket of another, through government-enforced coercion, is despicable and worthy of condemnation" You vote for leaders. They make laws. You accept those laws or you vote them out. Our leaders have had enough social conscience to care for the people in need. That isn't coercion. They apparently are more enlightened than you are.

Oh I'm sorry Robert V, it's rare on Y!A to hear anyone do anything but badmouth the EU, so I'm surprised to hear you say that they that they are capitalist base with social corrections. I can't disagree with you. You'll be labeled infidel by the right if you're not careful! But I think you're getting off the the topic here. No one I know of wants the kind of socialism you seem to describe. Market forces are a type of natural selection. I don't believe that we should be weeding out the poor at this point, though. BTW, I think that it would be natural for the US to have more Nobel prizes, since we have 5 times the population of most of those countries.

Answer 3

Ending economic classism (which I assume means supporting a massive redistribution of wealth?) is only a concern of socialists because only socialists are naive enough to think it's possible. Our Founding Fathers understood a very important fact, that if you a have a perfect state of equal economic opportunity, you will never have equal economic results, due to differences in ability, drive, or any of the other seven basic laws of success.
As far as needs are concerned the obvious question is how do you define the word needs? A simple truth that a lot of people in this country do not understand is that our poor people have a lot more wealth than the poor (and in many cases the middle class) of the vast majority of other nations.
As far as improving the lives of the masses, U.S. style capitalism has a vastly superior record of accomplishing that than socialism does, but most socialist are just too enamored of their ideology to admit that, and in many cases will go out of their way to avoid doing so, usually by changing the subject, or blaming someone else. Examples such as blaming the economic incompetence of people like Castro, Kim Jong Il, Salvador Allende, Mao Zedong, and Robert Mugabe on just about anything they can think of.
By the way chemcook, NONE of those nations you cited qualify as socialist or even quasi-socialist. Each and every one of them had a capitalist based economy in place long before they adopted socialist programs. What those nations are examples of is a capitalist nation that adopts some socialist policies as a correction for some of the excesses of capitalism. I have no problem with that, as there is no such thing as a perfect pure philosophy. But there should be no question that the mixture works best when the base economy is capitalist, with some socialism mixed in to temper the worst capitalist tendencies. However while the nations you mentioned have produced innovations, the US has outdone all of them, and as proof check out a list of recent Nobel Prize winners for science for the last 10-20 years. It's dominated by U.S. citizens. Truly socialist nations (like most of Africa and quite a few elsewhere) do not produce innovations, because the dominant socialist philosophy stifles incentives to be innovative. Those nations which have moved away from socialism, and toward capitalism, such as Mainland China, India (especially around Mumbai), Ireland, Estonia, and Chile after Pinochet overthrew Allende, have done a lot better at developing their economies and improving the lives of their citizens than those who have not (such as Cuba and North Korea) and nations, like Zimbabwe and Chile under Allende, regressed badly under socialist regimes

Answer 4

Conservative capitalists believe in a hyper-Darwinistic form of capitalism where those who do not have enough money to survive should either beg for the generousity of the rich or just hurry up and die. They honestly believe that the only possible reason anyone could be poor is that they must be lazy, stupid or somehow deficient as a human being and thus deserving of their fate.
They do not believe in "the General Welfare".
They believe in "every man for himself".

Answer 5

The third concern defines socialism.

"Socialism is the belief that the next important step in progress is a change in man’s environment of an economic character that shall include the abolition of every privilege whereby the holder of wealth acquires an anti-social power to compel tribute." - Ben Tucker

http://fair-use.org/benjamin-tucker/instead-of-a-book/armies-that-overlap

Answer 6

who cares what one may call or brand some one people or an ideology which advocates for the improvement of lives and justice for the masses! the pubic media has brainwashed people to dislike the word "socialism" and it is also used as a mean to degrade! evolution is inevitable and man and his society can't scape such a reality. we will move on to another stage and nothing can stop that. they may be able to slow it down but they can't stop it. truth will triumph sooner or later! peace

Answer 7

The concerns themselves are not inherently socialistic. It's the solutions that are proposed to deal with them that are either socialistic, communistic, or capitalistic.

Republicans for the most part want market forces to underpin solutions to these concerns. Dems prefer a more interventionist (ergo - socialistic) approach.

Answer 8

I think the bigger question you should be asking is....what can I do to improve MY life without taking from others whom have worked hard for what they have.
Why did we allow the Government to get so big.
And what can I do for myself instead of having beuracracy shoved doown my through......THEN you can think like a Conservative

A: I don't care about the masses....if they are worthwhile people, they will EARN their living

B: Economic Classism?? Your kidding right? People who work....get rich, People who sit around waiting on a welfare check....Do Not......You are where you are in life based upon the choices and decisions YOU have made

C. If you didn't allow Government to grow in the first place.....who is watching you?

Answer 9

I agree about the slaves thing and I think that's the reason that Lincoln was killed... because he ended slavery, thus ending the economic boom of the south. Other than that, you're question wasn't clear... or i just dont know :)

Answer 10

No, another major concern for socialists is how to end capitalism.

We know socialism stifles innovation. America cannot survive as a socialistic country. Socialistic welfare will slow any economy that is based on innovation. Countries that survive mainly off of exporting commodities (such as oil) don't have to be concerned with innovating to survive.

America has the most patents in the world because the founding fathers were capitalistic in their ways. They read Adam Smith's works.

The reason why the U.S. has a $12 trillion gross national product is because of innovation. Most of the stuff used around the world was invented in America (that includes cell phones, person computers, LED, lcd screen, plasma tv, microwave oven, electronic television (year 1927), optical recording (cd,dvd, etc), refrigerator, air conditioner, digital camera, digital music recording, digital video, computer chip, lightbulb, laptop computer, operating system, computer databases, word processors, spreadsheets, high level computer languages, digital radio transmission, tcp/ip (the internet), etc.. )

A country's wealth increases by manufacturing new innovations. Currently, the U.S. is allowing other countries to manufacture U.S. inventions.

Many countries survive by just manufacturing U.S. inventions and later exporting them. That is why they are so concerned about the falling dollar. A falling dollar will not allow countries to manufacture U.S. products below the cost of manufacturing the products in the U.S..

Edit: The first capitalistic business models in the U.S. were setup by Puritans several hundred years ago. They also started court systems to deal with business disputes.