Why do Democrats pretend that their representatives did not vote to go to war?

Question

The intelligence provided was gathered while Clinton was President and Bush spoken the EXACT words of Democrats when presenting the proposal of force in Iraq.

I read slanderous remarks here daily and wonder if we would not be better served to prosecute those that commit the crime. I am a proponent of free speech but not of malicious slander and libelous statements that are unsupportable.

Answer 1

My Congressman voted against it. I have a clear conscience.

Locutus: Printed/Published material is LIBEL,
Spoken defamatory comments are SLANDER.

And Public Figures have less protection under privacy law
than average citizens. New York Times vs Sullivan 1964
established that you need to prove actual malice..." reckless disregard to the truth or falsity ..under some pretty stringent standards..with truth as a defense - to collect damages for public figures. The closest thing I can think of was CBS vs Westmoreland.

But on this forum, I would be curious to see how someone could be taken to court and prosecuted. I guess you would need to show whom and how someone was damaged.
But good luck making a case out of it.

Answer 2

The issue is not if someone voted to go to war or not, nor if the war seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but rather is it the correct thing to do to stay in a failing war that our public no longer supports? Opposing the war is not being unsupportive of our military people, nor is it being supportive of the enemy. But who is the enemy? Can the enemy be engaged in combat and defeated? No it cannot because it is invisible. Our troops can't tell the friendlies from the hostiles. It is a cowardly insurgency which feeds on terror and hides in full view. It is also representative of a country who hates us and did not want our help to start with. I don't have this opinion because I support our enemy, but rather because I don't give a rat's a** about Iraq. I just don't feel it is a justifiable sacrifice to lose our brave soldiers for a country which will never accept democracy and will never cease hating America. And hey, man, I think your idea of slander is a bit screwed up.

Answer 3

Wouldn't you have thought that before taking such a dire measure as blowing up a country and dismantling their government, they would gather new intelligence to base it on?

Many people who voted for the war were not under the impression that the U.S. would occupy Iraq. The intelligence that clinched it was based on a fraud who was a double agent and reported misleading information. The Congress was under the impression that there was an imminent threat from Iraq.

George Bush talked about taking out Saddam Hussein when he was running for president in 2000. I think many of those who voted for the use of force were still reeling from 911. All of our government representatives need to get a grip.

If you have been watching the news, you may have noticed that the same scenario was about to happen with Iran.

Answer 4

i'm a registered republican yet do no longer continually vote that way. final election I chop up my vote, balloting for some republicans yet additionally some democrats too. I stay in a small city in Florida. We use to have closed primaries. while i became 18 and popular registered, I registered as a democrat with the aid of fact they out form the republicans right here some thing like 5:a million and to vote in interior of sight elections you fantastically plenty had to be a democrat with the aid of fact there became no republicans working. Now that we've an open popular equipment, it truly makes no distinction how your registered. If there's a race with out republicans on it, i will nonetheless vote. I plan on balloting for Ron Paul regardless. whether he's not nominated, i visit ask to write down in come regular election.

Answer 5

Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich are the only Candidates who were against going to the Iraq War.

Barack was not in Congress at the time, so his vote is not on record. But Dennis Kucinich's vote is on record as an official vote against going to war.

Dennis Kucinich also voted against funding the war every time. He has the most consistent record of anyone running.

Answer 6

If Bush used 5 year old intelligence to justify invading Iraq then he's that's pretty pathetic. It was ultimately his decision to launch an unnecessary war.

How come you're not outraged at the slanderous things said about democrats and liberal by conservatives? My guess is because what we are seeing is feigned partisan outrage.

Answer 7

They gave Bush the authority to use force in Iraq.
To deny the president power at that time would have been deemed foolish by the American public.
Perhaps they should have been foolish.

Answer 8

I'm a Democrat and I don't pretend that some Congressional Dems voted for the authorization.

Why do conservatives pretend that it was anything more than half of Congressional Dems who voted for it (half of Dem Senators and less than half of Dem House Reps) and that the authorization wasn't presented that force would be used as a last resort?

Answer 9

...well, ahhh, well, you see.... ahhhh, I voted to go to war before I voted to be against the war and ahhhh, well I, ahhh, I well...Awe, why don't you just ask Michael Moore or Danny Glover...umm ? (The "Dummycrats"...a Political Party that has as it's National symbol a "jackass"...go figure)...A great example of a "Dummycratic" pretender is Bill Clinton, He pretended he "did not have sex with that woman" and he did not inhale"... well, really, he wasn't pretending... He lied !

Answer 10

You make a good point, but you forget to mention that the Congress had ALL of the intelligence in front of them, even the dissenting intelligence that they NOW use to call Bush a liar, right in front of them in a binder, BEFORE they voted to go to war.