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http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/i-m/monarch.html
QUOTE "Startling new facts came to light in research for a Channel 4 programme on Richard III. The historian Michael K Jones had uncovered what appears to be strong proof that the 15th-century English monarch Edward IV was, in fact, illegitimate, thus throwing the legitimacy of all the kings and queens who followed into question. In fact, it appears that the royal line should have extended, not through Edward, but through his brother, George, Duke of Clarence, and his heirs." UNQUOTE

2007-12-07 04:27:13 · 26 answers · asked by Hello 3 in Society & Culture Royalty

http://www.british-civil-wars.co.uk/biog/loudoun.htm

2007-12-07 08:36:27 · update #1

Re bfpoonline
As I understand it, HM the Queen is the Commander in Chief, and "ultimately YOUR Boss"...?
I also KNOW that she is but a mere figure head - supposedly of stability in this increasingly unstable world we are exsisting in today.

That being said, maybe your criticism should be aimed at the government of the day - ie the Labour Party and it's "leader" Gordon Brown....although I'm sure you would wish it to be his arch enemy Tony Bliar(sic)

Although the PM has to go to the Palace to ASK HM the Queen for permission to form a "govt", that was mere courtesy.. on his, and tradition on her part !

IF this programme is to be believed, and the evidence produced proved to be FACT.. Your BOSS could belong to a SCOTTISH lineage.. already key posts in the Govt are taken by SCOTTISH ministers.. hmmm

Ach well, (NO pun intended), at least he would be a Celt :-).. a step in the right direction...even YOU would have to admit..?

2007-12-08 06:26:03 · update #2

26 answers

Yes I have heard that conceptual infelicity as well.
Right or wrong Elizabeth has been the best monarch we have ever had and thus deserves our loyalty.

2007-12-07 05:16:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

There have been several times when the Royal line was changed in England, usually when a Queen dies without issue. E.G. Elizabeth 1, Queen Anne etc.

The choice of transplant had much to do with religion and politics. Some of the legitimate candidates were rejected because of religion i.e. Charles Stuart (scots/ french catholic) that is why we have the German line in today.

We had the Protestant Dutch William (of Orange) and Mary after Anne died. The reason for the Orange Lodge and the Irish problem.

James was brought down from Scotland after QE1 died.

Due to the prodigousness of the current Royals there should not be a change in the line for some time.

There is also discussion of the true remanents of the French Monarchy e.g. Bourbons.

2007-12-08 01:40:00 · answer #2 · answered by kellring 5 · 2 0

The Duke of Clarence died January 1972. And has been a very popular New York Yankee base ball pitcher outlive his surviving family who prefers to marry a commoner choose private life. Except for his first born grandson.

If Camilla will be queen. What about UK economy??? Remember when Queen Elizabeth II was enthrone, She lost India, Cylon, Malaysia etc etc etc later Hungkong. Lossing Africa Canada and Australlia Scotland Ireland is not impossible but invitible.

To remind you, Great Brittain Heriditary was never been a Mountbatten nor Parker Bowles. Their is no such Monarch in UK that is a commoner related but related to war and impoverish tsu na mi of EMPIRE TREASSURY.

I think brittish people must start seeing future in a logical way.

2007-12-10 19:27:54 · answer #3 · answered by PRINCESS AQUIRAH 2 · 0 0

The King was often elected by the nobles before Parliament came along to make the rules. When Henry I died, his daughter Matilda should have been Queen but the throne was given to her cousin Stephen. When Stephen died, Henry Plantagenet, Matilda's son, was given the throne as Henry II. Direct inheritance failed many times and Richard II, Edward II, Henry VI, Edward V, Richard III and James II were deposed and/or murdered. Henry VIII got rid of all the remaining Plantagenets who had anything like a claim to the throne to justify his father's taking the throne from Richard III.

The monarch we have is there by the right of Parliament and is the true monarch. There have been many pretenders to the throne, some with greater claims than the incumbent but the incumbent is there by the will of the people and has every right to it. The Queen is not German, she is British and all her ancestors back to George III were born in England. George III said "Born and educated in this country I glory in the name of Briton" and he never visited Hanover. George I was descended from Charles I who was descended from Henry VII.

2007-12-08 10:55:16 · answer #4 · answered by tentofield 7 · 2 0

The final English monarch would desire to have been Richard III interior the sense that each physique his mom and father and grandparents have been born in England. considering 1485, the throne has been occupied by ability of Welsh, Scottish, Dutch and Germans. in this purist context, the worst somewhat English monarch replaced into Richard Lionheart. He replaced into hardly interior the country for the period of his entire existence and spent maximum of it killing human beings, pretty Muslims in Palestine. He would have been in my opinion to blame for most of the attitudes and movements against Muslims that are being repeated as we communicate. interior the wider information of "monarch on the English throne", the worst replaced into Charles I. He tried to reintroduce very own rule (overthrowing 4 hundred years of parliamentary government), the divine magnificent of kings, and the Roman Catholic faith. He made conflict on his very own human beings and replaced into the main clarification for a good number of the problem now in eire. His descendants repeatedly introduced insurrection back to Britain, so as that Scotland got here decrease than militia rule for extremely nearly a hundred years just to maintain some style of peace. He replaced into deposed, tried, no longer very satisfactorily legally, and performed. A installation end for a megalomaniac and stupid ruler. strategies you, his son James II could additionally declare to be worst monarch yet he did no longer carry the activity long adequate to make a real mess of issues!

2016-11-13 23:39:21 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

This doesn't really matter at all. That was the 15th Century. The true royal line was broken when Elizabeth I died with no heirs. The winners write history and sit on the throne however that may come to be. I think our royal family are just fine and if someone with a real 'bloodline' were to come forward they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

2007-12-07 06:48:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Elizabeth II was Proclaimed Queen from the balcony of St. James' Palace soon after her father's death. That is the legal requirement, since Parliament can choose anyone they like to be monarch, In practice it is the eldest surviving child of the late monarch, but since Cromwell the monarchy has been subordinate to Parliament. There is no other viable claimant.

2007-12-07 04:48:51 · answer #7 · answered by Duffer 6 · 5 0

This is not a new concept. To ponder about how it might have changed history is pointless.
I think the monarch we have on the throne has proved her true worth, it's not a job I would want.

2007-12-07 05:25:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Once the Monarch is proclaimed that person is the Monarch.
End of story

2007-12-08 05:44:08 · answer #9 · answered by Scouse 7 · 2 0

The British throne was usurped in 1485 .Also there has been some doubt cast on queen Victoria's legitimacy recently.Enough is enough time for true king of England to stand up.

2007-12-08 00:39:11 · answer #10 · answered by barney 4 · 0 3

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