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All I ever hear is rhetoric.

2007-12-07 02:31:05 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

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The founding father stated that this country was founded on 'Judeo-Christian' ideals, but did not declare this a strictly Christian country. Having been formed by the masses leaving other countries trying to escape religious persecution it was not in this country's best interest to set themselves up as to what religion you should follow. Albeit, there have been instances in this country where religious intolerance and bigotry have been not only condoned, but accepted as the 'law of the land', it does not make this country 'Christian'.

2007-12-07 02:43:38 · answer #1 · answered by momatad 4 · 1 1

Almost all of the founders were Christians. It was the Christian religious model they intended when ever they spoke of religion. This country was founded based on the Judeo/Christian system of moral absolutism that comes from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. All men endowed by their Creator... means that all rights come from God directly to each and every citizen. These rights are God's to endow not any government or any man can grant them or take them away.

If you do not believe in a Creator you cannot accept the basic founding tenets of America.

This is why Socialist inspired people are trying to convince you to accept secular humanism, Atheism and anything else that professes Moral Relativism. You see, America can never become a Socialist State as long as the basic idea that God has endowed man with rights is still accepted. Socialism needs Moral Relativism in order to do the brutal things necessary to insure the success of the Collective. They cannot abide Moral Absolutes such as Murder is wrong or Stealing is wrong. These things are not necessarily wrong if the Socialist State sees a need to eliminate undesirable people or otherwise cull the herd. They must be able to take what you earn and re-distribute it according to their desires. In other words steal from you.

This is not rhetoric. Read the Federalist Papers. You will have an epiphany.


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2007-12-07 02:52:40 · answer #2 · answered by Jacob W 7 · 2 0

Erinyes, last time I checked, 1982 and 1983 were, oh, a little over 200 years after the founding of the USA--at least what is celebrated as US independence. What Congress signed and affirmed in the 1980s has NOTHING to do with what happened in the 1700s.

In fact, John Adams made it very, very clear that this country was not founded as a Christian nation, or a Jewish or Mohamedan (sic) nation in the Treaty of Tripoli. When Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, he added "Creator" under great protest.

Of course, they said that all men were created equal, but they didn't quite measure up to that rhetoric.

2007-12-07 02:43:00 · answer #3 · answered by VeggieTart -- Let's Go Caps! 7 · 3 1

Religion was not a reason or issue in the founding our our country. That is not to say that many of the founding fathers were not deeply religious men. Many were. But in 1776 they had other concerns. An oppressive government that treated them as second class citizens and denied their basic freedoms including the freedom to worship as they believed right was their concern. That government attacked again (war of 1812) after our country was founded so their concerns were justified.
Today, Christians in the United States have the freedom to make religion the most important issue in their lives. From the secure comfort of their homes they cannot understand how deeply religious men could have ever formed a nation without religion being the central and absolute most important theme. They haven't had to fight and die for the right to simply practice the religion they believe in. They haven't stood shoulder to shoulder with others who believed in different faiths to preserve that right and many others. They take allot for granted. Our founding fathers were happy to just have government leave them alone to believe as they chose. The faithful of today cannot understand that because they have always been free.
It was mostly Christians that formed this country. That is true. But they formed a government to do only what a government had to do and otherwise leave them in peace. They didn't form a Christian or any other religious government because they didn't want to give a government the right to tell them what to believe.

2007-12-07 02:55:29 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I guess they just worked their butts off converting the "heathen" natives they found here to Cahtholicism because the country WASN'T founded as a Christian country.

You don't need rhetoric to know the USA was founded as a Christian country. All you need to do is study what took place. Why not open a history book every once in a while?

You could also read the Declaration of Independence.

2007-12-07 02:44:46 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

you're looking interior the incorrect place. The U.S. shape information the relationship between a federal government (the government of america) and the numerous State governments. it fairly is a company relationship and there fore secular in nature. in case you have been to look on the constitutions of the numerous States, you will see God is commemorated and in many of the constitutions of the 13 unique states the Christian faith is suggested. The quote you cite got here approximately with a controversy surrounding the Treaty of Tripoli. That treaty became signed by then President John Adams, the comparable John Adams who authored the form of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. bypass study that checklist and additionally you will see we've been a Christian united states of america form the outset.

2016-11-14 18:35:05 · answer #6 · answered by swett 4 · 0 0

Actually, the Constitution is the first document in history that DOES NOT lay the foundation for a nation based on seeking God's approval or blessing for doing so.

Madison and Jefferson DELIBERATELY made no mention of a deity. It was to be A NATION OF LAWS, not, anything else. Jefferson believed that faith was between a man and his maker, and not, a matter of politics.

Republicans today have created myths concerning the intentions of the founders that defy sense, logic, and appreciation of how great this country really is.

Separation of church and state was intentional and purposeful.

2007-12-07 02:55:58 · answer #7 · answered by alphabetsoup2 5 · 0 1

Rhetoric is defined as a position taken to exclusivity...Or an opinion...or even, An arguement of finality in the face of other possibilities.In english today it is what we all hear about everything.So either you are historically challenged or you are anti christian or you are hoping some nugget of fact will change how you see your heritage...either way good luck.

2007-12-07 02:51:35 · answer #8 · answered by Raymond C 6 · 1 2

the first settlers came to the US to escape religious persecution in England. As soon as they got here they decided to persecute anyone who was not of their church (Calvanist - Congregational). Rhode Island was founded to give refuge for Catholics from the persecution of the Pilgrims in the Bay Colony.

2007-12-07 02:44:59 · answer #9 · answered by organbuilder272 5 · 2 0

We we're founded by Christians that were smart enough to realize the church having power in political circles was dangerous ... Thomas Jefferson was a realist

todays Christian aren't nearly as educated, so they make obtuse statements of rethoric

2007-12-07 02:41:26 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

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