well i know his numbers are average and probably not HOF worthy, but, he had many clutch hits throughout his career and also held many post season records when he retired.( bernie williams has since passed most of them). he is a first time canidate for the class of 2008 and in my opinion he should be in. he is in the top 100 in most offensive catergories and with his clutch performances and leadership in the dug-out, along with 14 solid years of play i think he deserves to be in. What do you think?
2007-12-07 02:11:49 · 19 answers · asked by ghulk81 2 in Sports ➔ Baseball
bucky, nowhere near top 100 in any catergories you listed, lol. ranked 110th on the career homerun list. thats not close to top 100?
2007-12-08 05:38:47 · update #1
Good player with a lot of charisma. A little better than average numbers with a couple of rings, (Braves and Yankees). He had a few clutch hits mainly hitting a home run for the only run in the Braves world championship game in 1995.
He had a nice career but unfortunately he will not be elected into the hall of fame. I was a fan of Justice as I was of Bernie Williams and Paul O'Neill. All had basically the same type of careers and all very good players. The hall however, was not developed to enshrine very good players, only great players.
Of course there can always be the argument that there are a number of players in the hall that don't belong there and I happen to agree. Electing players into the hall may not be a perfect science but I think they get it right most of the time.
Here is a few "great players" that are still not in the hall.
Dave Parker
Dwight Evans
Jim Rice
Ron Santo
Gil Hodges
just to name a few.
2007-12-07 02:36:56 · answer #1 · answered by The Mick 7 7 · 11⤊ 0⤋
Sad state of affairs with the HOF this year. If allowing an idiot like Bowie Kuhn into the hall is any indication of who's getting inducted as far as the players go, then a lot of people won't be happy.
Sorry, my friend. I respect David Justice a great deal but he is not HOF material ahead of the likes of Bert Blylevin, Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Goose Gossage, Jim Rice, etc. Nor is Tim Raines. Unfortunately, there will be first timers picked off the ballot and quality holdovers will be omitted once again.
2007-12-07 02:30:52 · answer #2 · answered by no1nyyfan55 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
He has been clutch in his career. He has been on a ridiculous amount of post-season teams.
With that said, he does not have the career numbers for the Hall. When I think of great players and people that dominated their era, Dave Justice does not come to mind.
I feel the same way about Robert Horry. He has hit more clutch shots in the playoffs than anyone in history, but is not worthy of the basketball HOF.
2007-12-07 02:19:03 · answer #3 · answered by Matt C 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
He never led the league in a single offensive category. For an outfielder with an average range factor, below average fileding percentage, and low assist total, that is impossibly poor for HOF consideration.
He won two rings when he was a role player with the Yankees. I don't hold that against him, but in other words he didn't lead his teams to victory.
Top 100 in most offensive categories? He is #90 in SLG. He is 95 in unadjusted OPS. He is nowhere near the top 100 in any of these: home runs, runs, runs batted in, stolen bases, batting average, on-base percentage, adjusted OPS, runs created, doubles, triples...
His post-season batting average is 224. His slugging is 382. That's the slugging of a weak lead-off hitter. HIs OBP in the playoffs is 335.
To ask the question in this way either shows that you are from some alternate dimension where Justice was much better, or you didn't bother to do your homework.
ghulk81--Oooh, 110 in home runs! When you say he is top 100 in most categories--your exact words--I expect to see him in the top 100 in more than 2 and top 110 in more than three. And he could drop to 114 with one good game by Steve Finley, Todd Helton, and Reggie Sanders.
But his being 110 in home runs still doesn't do anything for being ranked 612 in batting average, 370 in runs, 491 in hits, 236 in RBI, 162 in OPS+, 325 in total bases...do you see how this does not quite equal "top 100 in most offensive categories" yet? No? Okay, not in the top 1000 in stolen basesor triples, #456 in doubles, 159 in walks, 244 in runs created, 251 in extra-base hits. Which of these is even close to the numbers you claimed for him?
2007-12-08 02:08:57 · answer #4 · answered by Bucky 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He was a really good player for a long time and he won pretty much wherever he went, but I just don't think he was ever a great player, and he doesn't quite have the career stats. He's on roughly the same level as his contemporary Joe Carter and his former teammates Tino Martinez, Paul O'Neill, and the aforementioned Bernie Williams: Almost there, but not quite.
2007-12-07 03:11:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Hell no, he doesn't have statistics to back that up. He may have a ring but that isn't good enough. Bert Blyleven, Jack Morris or Mark McGwire deserve to be in the HOF more than Dave Justice.
2007-12-07 02:24:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
I can't see David Justice ever getting elected to the Hall of Fame unless he becomes a great broadcaster or manager.
2007-12-07 04:44:32 · answer #7 · answered by blueyeznj 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
it's the hall of fame, not the hall of pretty good. he won't ever get in, especially considering there are many more players that are eligible that aren't in.
ronnie santo needs to voted in by the vet.
hawk dawson, jack morris, and jim rice should all be in before anyone else.
2007-12-07 03:30:30 · answer #8 · answered by joe 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Good player, not a GREAT player like the HOF requires.
2007-12-07 03:02:41 · answer #9 · answered by bdough15 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No possible way. Hall is for great players. Justice was a very good player.
2007-12-07 02:21:25 · answer #10 · answered by dontbedenied 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋