One of the lessons taught by the civil rights movement is that differing results cause activists to assume the oppression of one group to be the cause. I am referring to the frequent brandishings of racism in recent years and not to the civil rights movement in the 1950's and 1960's. Feminism is no different in that, though they will say otherwise, feminists equate an end-result to available opportunity (see my prior question below). Naturally, like the "race card", this causes feminists to seek out social causes for subtle social differences which typically result in accusations of oppresive men. So it seems to me that the end result of feminism is strife between men and women where none is necessary by assuming wrongdoing by men by actively pursuing the causes of differing outcomes which inevitably includes charges of oppression.
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2007-12-07 01:16:55 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science ➔ Gender Studies
Tracey: I'm glad you finally "responded" to a question that didn't involve bodily fluids in some way, but you still managed not to respond. "Feminist mindset" is a pretty obvious term with no political connotations whatsoever. But the fact that your answer actually seeks divisiveness rather than attempting a real answer, you've supported my point.
2007-12-07 01:34:09 · update #1
Tracey: It's a self-defining term that needs no elaboration. A "mindset" is a disposition. A "feminist mindset" would therefore be a feminist disposition. In other words, a "feminist mindset" would be the way in which a feminist views the world....His/her outlook. The angle at which s(he) approaches issues/problems.
2007-12-07 01:40:05 · update #2
Rio Madeira: In my previous question you were unable to provide a measurement for equality of opportunity that didn't depend entirely on outcome. So there is apparently little to no practical difference between the two (at least in your mind). Wouldn't unequal result then lead to accusations of unequal opprtunity against men. And if those men aren't guilty of your accusations, wouldn't that cause divisiveness?
2007-12-07 01:52:32 · update #3
Rio Madeira: That's all fine and dandy, but from a practical perspective that's not quite how it works. I'm sure there are far more accusations of racism in the present day than there are acts of it.
2007-12-07 02:12:37 · update #4
Rio Madeira: My question pertains more to whether or not feminism has a tendency to cause people to find divisive issues rather than claiming that all feminists seek to be divisive.
2007-12-07 03:59:29 · update #5
simple answer = yes
2007-12-07 01:19:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
I understand but what drove these women? Yes, we are all responsible for our choices but those women were not only driven they were used as well by the system. They lead them to believe they would be much better off while they collect welfare or added state support to their pay. Was it not a few years ago it was announced on Christian radio stations that young girls would be told they do not need a husband to have a child? I heard it...anybody else?
When a man refuses to see the difference between a wife and his mother it opens up his home and the public schools also work on the kids to get into the home with Sigmund Freud ect. Obviously family breakdown occurs concerning family roles. What this has led to today is many young women refusing to accept that men already have mothers AND fathers and it's only getting worse concerning breakdown of family and extended.
2007-12-07 16:01:20 · answer #2 · answered by GoodQuestion 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I agree with you, and would expand your argument as follows...
If the Feminist movement would simply refocus their efforts on where the REAL problems with women begin - namely - the teenage years, then they could do some genuine GOOD.
What defines the typical teenage girl these days? Unfortunately, she has to have the "right" clothes, the "right" boyfriend, the "right" friends, she has to be popular, listen to the "right" music, and she has to do just "ok" in school, or else she'll be thought of as a dork.
Add MTV into the mix, and you have a recipe for utter disaster. Where are the feminists? Why don't they step in and intervene, to help these young women learn how to be strong, independent, successful, responsible, and well-educated?
Where are they, you ask? Too busy blaming men for all the problems in the world, and/or too busy fighting for the right to kill and suck babies out of their wombs...
It's a very tragic state of affairs, if you ask me.
My coworker is a feminist, and she ended up being a great success, master's degree from an Ivy League school, good job, happy... She could be a great life-coach to a young teenage girl, but... she won't do it. I just don't get it...
2007-12-07 09:24:10 · answer #3 · answered by Slappy McStretchNuts 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Why don't you just say what you really want? You would rather have men and women conform to certain roles because you believe it would lead to a more peaceful society. That's right, everybody will pretend to be happy and nothing will change. That's a great arrangement if you happen to be among those who benefit from it but for those who don't, of course they want change. Wouldn't you want things to be different if you happened to be a part of the population that gets discriminated against and denied certain jobs and educational opportunities simply because of what you are? You may not like this "strife" but it is necessary. If it didn't occur, nothing would change and young women today would be living the exact same lives that their grandmothers and great-grandmothers did
2007-12-07 14:44:12 · answer #4 · answered by RoVale 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No, not divisiveness. It encourages critical thinking about social issues, and if a certain woman happens to take a more divisive position, that's just her. Furthermore, most feminists here will tell you that they don't care about equality of results as long as equality of opportunity is achieved.
EDIT: That divisiveness would only continue to exist if there was clear evidence of discrimination of either sex. If none of this evidence appeared, I would hope that everyone calmed down. In any event, I think I made it quite clear that qualifications, not gender, should be the factor in determining outcome. If someone is unable to meet those qualifications in terms of education or skills, that's their own problem.
EDIT: In that case, wouldn't it make more sense to attack the individuals who falsely accuse others of racism, instead of the anti-racism movement as a whole?
2007-12-07 09:50:06 · answer #5 · answered by Rio Madeira 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Yes.
2007-12-07 09:48:39 · answer #6 · answered by Jay 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
What's a "feminist mindset"? Is that like a "gay agenda"? Meaningless talking points for the political right to get their non-specific whinges out?
** No, I really want to know, Raj. What's a "feminist mindset"?
2007-12-07 09:31:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
Absolutely. Yes. I agree with you.
2007-12-07 09:25:31 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Only if you allow it to.
2007-12-07 09:56:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋