Non-Hillary Democrats, does it bother you she is getting beat up on unfairly?

Question

I'm a Kucinich fan because I am far, extreme left.

Now with that said, as the primaries get closer, it is beginning to get under my skin at the false rhetoric about Hillary.

Examples,
Socialist - she isn't (Kucinich is and why I like him)

She should have left Bill - so what, if she were male who would care

She is calculating - what politician isn't

She panders - Bush didn't? He was paid by Bush Sr in 88 to find out how to win the evangelical vote. Give me a break.

It seems to me that because she is female, she is being held to a higher standard and it is making me sick at the women who are speaking out against her. Even Kucinich has defended her.

Hum... what else...

As the primaries get closer, I'm just starting to wonder if I should waste a vote on Kucinich and indirectly Obama wins.. Obama is a liar... knowingly letting ppl believe he voted for the war when he was not even in the Senate at the time.

Obama - I am referring to how many times during debates he has stated he was 'against the war from the beginning...'. I know this does not state he 'voted' but ppl thin that in their minds and he knows it.. I did a poll and ALL of them thought he had voted... he knows this.... is why I am saying he is no new change... same old word games... same lies.

I just realized I left a part out on my last comment... Obama was not in the US Senate until 2005 hence did NOT vote on the Iraqi War.

Answer 1

I am totally with you on this - except I am not supporting Kucinich and do like Obama.
But the nonsense about Hillary - as well as the rewriting of history about Bill are becoming very tedious.

Answer 2

You say you give examples of "false rhetoric" about Hillary but the only one you give is the line that she's a socialist and that's debatable. Next is people saying she should have left Bill - that's an opinion, how can it be false? You admit that she's calculating so even you don't believe that's false. Same with the pandering and I don't know why you bring Bush in to it. Hillary herself has said that she is not being attacked because she is a female, but because she is ahead in the polls.

And I don't see how Obama lied about not voting to invade Iraq. It's not a lie if he says he's always been against the war. If people are too stupid to know or too lazy to find out when he became a senator than that's their loss and their problem, not Obama's.

Answer 3

the Obama thing.... what are you talking about? He was strongly opposed to the war in Iraq. And he voiced this opinion during the buildup to the war at a time when it was VERY unpopular to do so. check your "facts" he never made people believe he voted for the war, that's the exact opposite of what he did. He was right on the war from the very beginning. i can't get over how ridiculous what you just said about him is. I'm a Democrat and I am very anti-Clinton. My reasons being the ways in which she has run her campaign. They've run it just like the Bush administration. They've planted questions, attacked Obama over his Kindergarten essay titled "I Wanna Be a President", she gave Bush the power to execute his BS war. If she couldn't see that the president was full of shiit, then is her judgment really that great?? I do like Kucinich though, but he really doesn't stand a chance. That's why my vote is going to Obama.

Answer 4

If you think Hillary is getting beat up now (fairly or un-fairly) you haven't seen anything yet.

The so-called "mainstream press" loves to kick people when they're down and when it becomes apparent that Hillary is in big trouble because of historical facts concerning her character... The press will jump on her with both feet and not even her charismatic husband will be able to help her.

The well deserved attacks on Hillary are coming and will make the revelations about Kerry seem pretty mild. Anyway, that's my opinion.

Answer 5

No it does not bother me because she is and always will be a politician first before anything.
It comes with the job even if she is a woman.

I feel if anything we need to run background checks, drug tests and anything we can get away with, after all we are basically hiring them.

They need to start asking more questions about how she will be involved with the North American Union. Her husband opened the door Bush followed up and now it looks like they are trying to get Hillary in to Finnish the deal.
I want to keep the America I always loved, along with our Constitution.

Answer 6

1. Not Socialist? ROFLMAO! Kucinich may be the only candidate to the left of her...HE IS A BORDERLINE COMMUNIST!

2. If you like socialism so much, why do you not go to a socialist country and leave America the he!! alone. Many brave soldiers have fought to maintain our freedom...INCLUDING FROM SOCIALISM since the revolutionary war. There are many socialist countries, where you would fit in. This is America. We are a CAPITALIST society. LOVE IT OR GET THE HE!! OUT!

Answer 7

I think that she is socialist. She treats her staff like complete crap. (Others may not care... but I do... given especially since she supposedly cares about average people.. etc.) She and her husband have no respect for each other or for the country. Neither believes that the truth is an option. Hillary Care would absolutely not work. THE CLINTONS HAVE NO INTEGRITY. Integrity is HUGE, in my book.

I don't agree with any of things she stands for, but that aside, I DONT CARE WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ON, certain things aren't right.... Clinton lying about his affair, Craig being gay yet leading all of the anti gay demonstrations, etc. Stand up for what you believe in, but don't be a hypocrite.

I believe him to be an embarrassment to the Conservative party as a whole, not because he is gay, but rather because he loudly bashes gays and then is one secretly... what is that?

Answer 8

Oh my, a politician who is running for the presidency is being scrutinized. I suppose Edwards, Obama, etc are fair game, but lets give the WOMAN a free ride.
I feel certain that if she is elected to the presidency that all world leaders will act in a politically correct manor and give her a pass also because she is a woman.

Answer 9

Unfairly? Hillary is the first to play dirty pool and then cries foul when somebody questions her on a legitimate political question. Hillary has very little political experience to speak of. If not for being married to Bill, the world would have no idea who she is.

Answer 10

well... as the national poll leader... she certainly has the target on her back...

is it ugly... yes... is it going to get worse... probably...

but, that seems to be the political game to a degree...

and I think I missed the "Obama knowingly letting people believe he voted for the war when he was not even in the senate at the time" thing? when did that happen?