CIA comparable to the Guestapo?

Question

In recent years the CIA has committed more atrosities inside their own borders and in other nations against both their own citizens, enemies and allies than any other agency in the world. For ruthlessness and cruelty and breaking of international laws they easily dwarf any Al Queda works. As a result do you not consider that they are comparable to the Guestapo or perhaps worse? For those of you who dont agree check the news more often and remember WW2 which despite a very late arrival by the US was to put a stop to these atrosities.Dont you now agree that the CIA and the US at large is very much now the very monster that it once vowed to stop? Perhaps the US is more true to the 3rd Reich than Nazi Germany ever was. What do you think?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20071207/tpl-uk-security-cia-interrogations-43a8d4f_1.html
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/bush.speech/
www.state-terrorist.com/torture/cia.html
english.pravda.ru/world/americas/07-09-2006/84323-secret_prisons-0

Answer 1

yes, as i have allways said, the americans were and still are the 20th and 21st century nazis.Why do you think G.bush's grandfather supported hitler and his nazi party,and to prove the links,as the final moments of nazi imperialism ended in world war 2 after the soviet assult, The u.s and it's allies harbour thousands of nazis instead of handing them to the soviets for the death and suffering they caused to it's people.

Answer 2

When I was in the Marines in Force Recon back in the 80's it was a running joke that we were the training ground for the CIA field operations...they seemed to like the Force Recon Marines, as I knew more than a few that after doing 6 or 8 years in the Corps went CIA.

Answer 3

Well I would say the FBI is used more like the guestapo in our own country. The CIA is a terrorist group that does anything it pleases around the world. Now when I say this about these organizations I don't mean all are corupt. There are some great americans that work there. But at the right levels there is pure evil!!!! JFK was right the CIA needed to be broken into a thousand pieces!!! That is just one of the reasons he was killed!!!

Answer 4

Look, the Bush administration is FAR worse than the CIA or whatever you think the CIA has done or is doing.

Bush and his cronies are ruining the economy by printing money 24/7, trying to crush the dollar to "lessen" the US debt they've driven form a $680 BILLION surplus to a $1.5 TRILLION deficit.

Get real, and get some perspective.

Answer 5

Yes the CIA does interfere in the Politics of other countries a typical example was the Funding of Forbes Burnham in Guyana a known racist and fascist

Answer 6

~Okay, so from your rant we can establish that, in addition to your inability to spell or use proper grammar or punctuation:

a. you know nothing about the Nazis and what they did;
b. you know nothing of Savak, GRU, NKVD, the Gestapo, DEMIAP, ANS, the Ustaša, the Mukhabarat, the CIA created and trained but as yet unnamed death squads now busily at work in Iraq today (which have caused some US officials to say that, compared to them, Saddam is starting to look good) Joseph Stalin, Idi Amin, Papa Doc, Castillo Armas, the Khmer Rouge, Somoza, Saddam, Reza Pahlavi, Augusto Pinochet, Juan Peron, Andrew Jackson, William Sheridan, the French Reign of terror, the Spanish Inquisition and hundreds of other like examples, past and present, including, as far as that goes, al-Qaeda (which you can't even spell);
c. you know nothing about the reasons for which the US entered WWII or of what were the US war goals;
d. you don't understand how minor the US role was in bringing down the Nazis or that the war in Europe was won by the Soviets under the regime of Stalin, our ally, which was every bit as brutal as that of our common foe and the land war in Asia was won by our equally vicious and barbaric allies, the Chinese.

All that being said, yes the CIA does overstep its bounds and has since its inception, albeit more abroad than at home. Yes CIA atrocities do occur, all too often, some with the knowledge and consent of the White House, some without. I submit that bringing down the democratic government of Iran in 1953 and putting the Shah back in the seat of dictatorial power and using SAVAT and CIA to keep him there, and supporting the Shah and his bloodthirsty, homicidal pogroms was far more egregious and had vastly more dire, far-reaching and adverse consequences than anything the Company has done lately. That little episode resulted in the exponential growth of anti-American fanaticism throughout the Middle East, not just in Iran, created the rise to power of Grand Ayatullah Sayid Ruhullah Musawi Khomeini, ultimately resulted in the seizure of the US Embassy and the hostages in '79, and is still responsible for much of the strife in Iran and Iraq and elsewhere throughout the region today, not to mention the terrorism it has spawned, up to and including the 9/11 attacks.

The US has ignored and violated the rights of its own citizens and of other nations as a matter of course since it was born in 1789. The current illegal, immoral and unjust invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are but two more in a long line of similar imperialist power plays by Uncle Sam. Pulling out now, though, before the miasma we have created is cleaned up will be just another obscene and unjustifiable act and will eventually drag us back in, into a broader and more deadly and destructive regional war. US conduct there, however, does not compare in pure carnage and barbarism with the firebombings of Dresden or Tokyo (for which Curtis Le May acknowledged he'd have been tried for war crimes had the US lost the war), or the nuclear destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which, according to Chester Nimitz, Douglas MacArthur, Dwight Eisenhower, Truman's own Chief of Staff, Adm. William Leahy, the US Strategic Bombing Survey and others in like positions of power and knowledge who recommended and advised against using Fat Man and Little Boy , were NOT militarily necessary, did NOT shorten the war or prompt the Japanese surrender and did NOT save American lives). Even so, and taking into account slavery, the denial of Civil Rights to Blacks after the 13th Amendment and the genocide of the American Indian, US barbarism still does not come close to comparing with Stalin's USSR, Hitler's Germany, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Diem's Vietnam, Pinochet's Chile, Hussein's Iraq, Amin's Uganda, Kaddafy's Libya,or any number of like examples. No, the US isn't perfect by any means. But we are a far cry from those with whom you would equate us and scores of others you probably know nothing about.

When you over-exaggerate your hyperbole, you loose any credibility you may have otherwise had and you end up just looking foolish. If things are so bad here and so much better elsewhere, you could move, but I'd steer clear of Saudi Arabia were I you, especially if you are a woman or plan to take one with you. Me, I'll stick around, keep my ears open and my eyes in the books, my hands on the polling levers and do whatever I can to hold folks accountable.

Answer 7

Your premise is absurd and childish. To my knowledge, CIA agents have never gone door to door pulling U.S. citizens out of their homes, lining them against a wall and shooting them.
Perhaps a bit more learning about Nazi Germany would benefit you.

Answer 8

I agree and think the C.I.A. should be labeled a terrorist group and dismantled like JFK was getting ready to do before he was assassinated. They are very corrupt and evil. Assassinations, drug distribution, coups etc.

Answer 9

the CIA is a terrorist organization with license.

Answer 10

No. Do facts hurt you when you hear them?