Do you want "under God" removed from our ducumentations in the USA?

Question

Sorry, not ducumentations, but, documentations. Like on our money and federal buildings.

... or even "in God we Trust", do you want it removed.

Answer 1

NO we need him , but not in politics .

Answer 2

Do you mean government documents? If this is the case, then yes, I do believe that it should be eliminated.

The first European settlers to stay in the present-day United States did so specifically to escape from government-sanctioned religion. A century later, our present nation was founded by a series of men who could, at strongest, be called secular humanists.

It was only during the 1950's (during the McCarthy era, I might add) that Congress began altering the very fabric of the national tenor by including "In God We Trust" on all money, and shoving "under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance.

Since then, advocates for the maintenance of deistic rhetoric folded into politics have completely forgotten that these trends are frightening recent, not the product of our national DNA, historical record, or any other such nonsense.

Even the very nation from which we broke away (due, in part, to religious inequities!!) quietly snickers at our religious fervor. It is a national shame that we forced to abide by the rules of a theocratic regime birthed from a simple lack of national understanding, and worse, basic common sense.

Edit: There have been some who have made an economic argument here, implying somehow that public monies need be used to rectify the situation, and thus should not be acted upon. They would be wrong on both fronts. First, since the Treasury adjusts paper denominations quite frequently, (at least twice per denomination in the last 14 years -- the $100 denomination 4 times) the exclusion of the painstaking process of etching these words into the new intaglio print would actually save money, not cost money. Second, even if it did cost more, what other priorities stand over the return to the clear and obvious intentions of the founding fathers? Tax cuts? War? Government subsidies?

Regarding the adjustment of the Declaration of Independence, I doubt that anyone is arguing for the adjustment of historical documents -- to claim that one would argue as such is putting words in the mouths of one's opponent. What's more, the term "Creator" is used specifically in lieu of "God" or even "a God." This was so because Jefferson and Franklin had very direct greviences with the idea of deism, but Adams felt that for the logic of the argument to work, it required the invocation of a greater entity. What's more, in the parlance of the time, all international treaties and major communications invoked such an entity. To not use the term "Our God" or "God" in the document was quite shocking at the time, but very important for Jefferson and Franklin.

May we someday return to more logical and sane days...

Answer 3

No, I don't.

It rightly will never be removed from our U.S. Declaration of Independence -- where we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights.

Most of the Founding Fathers believed in deism and attended Freemasonry lodges. According to John J. Robinson, "Freemasonry had been a powerful force for religious freedom." Freemasons took seriously the principle that men should worship according to their own conscious. Masonry welcomed anyone from any religion or non-religion, as long as they believed in a Supreme Being. Washington, Franklin, Hancock, Hamilton, Lafayette, and many others accepted Freemasonry.

Our Creator (capital "C", meaning God): THIS IS A CRITICAL AND UNIQUE ANCHOR TO OUR LIFE AND LIBERTY! What rights, including life and liberty, we get from God, GOVERNMENT CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY.

Answer 4

I guess you are basically asking if we should, at great expense, replace all state/federal legal documents that mention "God", because we should appease those here who are intollerant of others.

You are asking, should we deface Historical documents, such as The Declaration of Independance because it mentions "the Creator"

Edit the history books so that future generations aren't stained with the knowledge of why our forefathers founded this great nation.

True, there is much bad that goes on in the name of religion. That happens because we are human beings and everything we do, including our religious institutions are subject to our failings. Elimination religion will not eliminate injustice, or suffering. It would just endone scapegoat to blame the injustice and suffering on.

Indeed, there is so much good done in the name of religion (not just Christianity) that eliminating it for its faults is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water.

No, I would like to keep God as much as possible in the lives of everyone. I think there is far, far, more potential to do good than to do harm .

Answer 5

As an atheist myself, I think this is a rather silly issue. It doesn't offend me and quite frankly I don't care. It is what it is. The way I see it, the whole "under God" part is more symbolic than it is religious.

Answer 6

No. should we change United States of .... and find something else to be called other than American?
Under God is part of our heritage, our history, our values as a Christian nation founded by Christians who believed and still believe for the majority in God. Those who don't like it can feel free to be atheist or of different religion but they have no right to force the majority of us to abandon what we believe in.

Answer 7

nope. By doing that, you are essentially erasing the standards and morals that this country was built on. You don't have to be a believer of it, or offended by it, to be able understand the history of where our morals in this country came from. More than ever before, I think we need to be reminded of the meaning of the words, not where the words come from. The writings come from religion. The lessons, and morals are philosophical in nature and teach us about humanity. People make it more, or less than that. And that is their choice.

Answer 8

NOT A CHANCE! Mentioning God is not "religion."

It is part of the establishment of our country. Someone above asked what would it hurt to have it removed - since most Americans are Christians, how is it hurting the Atheists, etc.. to have it there? BTW, to remove it would take lots of expense and effort.

Answer 9

Our money says "in God we trust." Nor does it say "under God" in any federal building I know of.

Do you mean the word God?

Answer 10

i believe it should be.

these words weren't on anything american until the Cold War Era, to fight the atheist Communists.

besides, doesnt it provoke our rights to whichever religion we wish to practice?
this country is not officially a Christian nation, even though a majority of the people here are of Christian background.
people would be offended if it said "in Allah we trust", even though it is known that both the Bible and Qur'an reference to the same God.

it wouldnt be fair to the little kids who are atheist or Muslim to have to say "under God" when they pledge allegiance to our country. thats not why they pledges their allegiance in the first place!

Answer 11

Removing it certainly wouldn't hurt anyone. Actually, I take that back. I'm sure it would bother a lot of people.

I don't personally need it removed from money and the pledge of allegiance but it would certainly make a lot of non-monotheistic people in this country happy. I mean, they're American too, even if it isn't their God. So is it fair to them that they have to live in a nation "under God" when they don't believe in Him?