Are there any recent statistics for opposing same sex marriage?

Question

i need some.

Answer 1

open4one is just using words to further his/her agenda while denigrating people who do that at the beginning of the missive.

No one ever claims marriage is a right.

Marriage is an overloaded term, meaning it has two unrelated definitions, and that is what causes confusion

1 - It is an inducement on civil behavior in exchange for benefits.

2 - It is a religious ceremony then imbues the participants with religious benefits that vary according to the religion

Because most (but not all) people who get married do both a religious and a civil marriage simultaneously, it is often misunderstood that the desire for gay marriages are civil only, not religious (but see below).

For civil only gay marriages, any religious arguments simply are not on point. Hetero civil marriages occurred completely independent of any religion the participants may or may not have, and so it makes no sense to inject religion into the debate now. This has probably been true dating way back to the earlies English common law on which our legal system is based.

People are always free to do either a civil or a religious marriage as well as both, so they are not connected in any real sense.

Many heteros marry civilly without marrying religiously, or they marry religiously in more then one religion (I attended just such a ceremony two weeks ago).

So, any religious objections to a civil marriage are simply not to be considered at all.

Arguments against a civil marriage need to be based on reasons to deny groups the benefits that the marriage grants in exchange for the behavior.

since the behavior is defined as things that are generally good for society as a whole - stable relationships, raising children, home-ownership, etc., anyone group that can execute those behaviors at least as well as the current groups who are allowed to marry have done historically should be granted to benefits.

Many countries have already allowed gay civil marriages and their countries have not collapsed or notably changed in material way. Canada is our closest neighbor and therefore perhaps the most relevant example to us.

As for religious marriages, that is a separate issue that will need to be discussed on a religion by religion basis, using the processes that exist in the religion. I would only remind the participants that their religion almost certainly teaches and preaches love an tolerance and acting that way whenever given the opportunity.

Answer 2

There are no valid statistics about opposition to same sex marriages.

The reason I say that is because I have yet to see a poll that asks the questions in any meaningful way that would allow one to see just what is being opposed, or why. The presumption is that if a person opposes same sex marriages, they are a bigoted right-wing neo-nazi gay bashing homophobe, and probably a latent homosexual themselves.

It just ain't so.

I personally am probably more against same sex marriage than in favor, but it is a matter of exactly what "same sex marriage" means. Let's explore that.

First of all, I don't care who lives with whom, or what they do. It's their business. We are talking about a formalized, legal status, that brings with it legal benefits. Those benefits are privileges created by the government, not rights one is naturally born with.

My primary objection to same sex marriage is the concept of having it declared by courts that same sex couples are entitled to marriage status by right. I'm against this totally, as deciding whether or not it is legally recognized is up to the legislature, not the courts. Defining "marriage" as a legal status is not up to judges, it is up to the state lawmakers.

Now, as far as whether or not the legislatures want to extend that to same sex couples, it is a matter of looking at why they created the marriage status in the first place. If a legislature feels that a same sex marriage fits the same logic that a hetero couple does for obtaining the benefits of marriage (intestacy laws, inheritance of social security or retirement, etc) then I'd be okay with them enacting same sex marriages.

Marriage isn't a right, though. Anyone that thinks it is does not understand what a "right" is.

Answer 3

I don't know. I myself am 100% PRO-GAY MARRIAGE.
Why shouldn't they be miserable like the rest of us.