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what one believes is not alway true, we who see that earth had to have a master creator know well that all the earth creation never just pooped into being. nor does the big bang theory hold up in truth..everthing that is now had to have a maker and that maker of all things can be no other that God almighty...God has give us a free will to believe and think and make choises...my choise is that there had to be a master builder and creator ...nothing cannot be made from nothing. there had to be something to create all substances...and this is the earnest truth of the whole sugject.. no matter what one believes the truth will stand forever and will not faulter...

2007-12-05 00:48:54 · 9 answers · asked by jakemcqueen 1 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

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Most atheists believe that the universe came into being at the Big Bang, rather than thinking that it was created by a supernatural god. They don't know what happened before that. It's impossible to know, from what I hear.

Believers think that a supernatural god created the universe, performed dozens of miracles here, gave humans free will, and expects us to not use it. They think that this god has always existed, and that the only way to achieve eternal bliss is to believe whole-heartedly in the god, and obey his every whim.

Only one of these camps has objective, testable evidence, logical congruence, and the willingness to change or discard theories and beliefs in the face of new evidence. Until the believers can show me how to feed thousands with a few pieces of fish and bread, how to part a body of water so that I can walk across the bottom, how to get a snake to speak (and Harry Potter films don't count here), I'll remain an atheist.

2007-12-05 01:01:29 · answer #1 · answered by Ralfcoder 7 · 3 0

The answer is simple. If the world is what it is today, with its diversities and developments can we ever think of its non existence before being created? That is, the atheists believe that the world is eternal and that if it was accepted to be created, then we must answer the following questions: Was the creator of the world so powerful as to create so many things? If at all, it is accepted that the world is created, then with what matter was the world created? Could there have been nothing before the world was created? And if this is accepted, how could the creator create the world from nothing? What is the purpose of the creator? (we know that something is made for something else. If this be so, Why was the world created?) If we accept that the master creator is all-knowing and all-powerful, then why is there suffering? Therefore, it is clear that if we accept the existence of a master creator then we must able to answer all these questions. Since there are no convincing answers for all these questions, the atheist simply denies the existence of a master creator

2007-12-08 08:18:37 · answer #2 · answered by Chandrasekar V 1 · 0 0

'we who see that earth had to have a master creator know well that all the earth creation never just pooped into being' = so did your 'master creator just pop into being?

The Big Bang is the best interpretation of all the known facts, I.E. the red shift; Galaxy patterns etc. If the big bang is wrong then who ever or what ever set out the universe lied in a very big way.

We do not choose our beliefs only how to express them. Therefore you can be forgiven for believing in a lot of nonsense.

Because the truth will stand forever and it isn't in a bronze age book of mythology. Adding a supernatural / occult answer to the origins of everything does not explain anything.

You are totally right 'nothing cannot be made from nothing. there had to be something to create all substances' and that goes fro any god or the like.

read up on Occam's razor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ockham%27s_Razor

2007-12-05 08:59:25 · answer #3 · answered by Freethinking Liberal 7 · 2 0

Hello:

First I would like to say that God's existence is not contingent on my belief or anyone's in the one that is I Am.

Having said that I would like to point out that apparently you believe that God created everything including and epically (because we are made in God's image) The Earth with us upon it with all of its...trials and tribulations, suffering and evil...for whatever reason that this is necessary (because God is God and clearly could have made an universe without evil if thats what God wanted).

I am an Atheist in that I am really an agnostic that doesn't really give that whole thing a lot of credence...I would like there to be a God, i am a good person (at least try to be) regardless of any reward or punishment for it in the end. We have trouble putting faith in the almighty in part because all of the thoughts we have on God are from what someone thought and so some ideas don't fit with others and some don't make sense. Eventually anyone that thinks lies through will be able to see through them and each of them makes the idea harder to believe.

Epically when it involves a leap of faith.

As for YOUR logic...you state that what one believes is not always true and then state what you choose to believe.

The long and the short of it is that we don't have all the answers...we may never and without all the answers it will be tough to prove God exists (and I don't mean any of this leap of faith stuff...i mean proof proof...scientific proof which is to say a theory that can be demonstrated and an event that can be repeated) and without knowing everything in the universe (in a way making us somewhat Godlike...at least those with said knowledge) it is going to be impossible to disprove God.

To be honest I do find the idea that all this came about from random chance about as hard to swallow as the idea of God, however I would still put my money on random chance over the divine hand of one being.

I hope this helps.

Rev Phil

2007-12-05 11:11:26 · answer #4 · answered by Rev Phil 4 · 0 0

Yeah I'd scratch the poop part of the post but I do agree with you. Sometimes the obvious is just too hard to believe. It's great to see that their scientists who ponder who God made these things possible. God would not have given man the intelligence his mysterious. Or give man the heart and faith to recognize and accept the truth.

2007-12-05 10:29:26 · answer #5 · answered by Uncle Remus 54 7 · 0 0

lol @ 'pooped into being'.

So, because you can't fathom the concept of a universe without a creator, then we should all just accept it?

'Nothing can be made from nothing' and yet God could do it...

2007-12-05 09:16:56 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I don't think they deny the existence of a master creator, they deny knowledge of the existence of such a master creator - as should we all - none of us knows shiit, really, about it.

2007-12-05 13:28:31 · answer #7 · answered by All hat 7 · 0 0

It is possible by reversing the admonition of Boethius to join faith to reason--you DIS join faith from reason, discard faith, and rely on reason.
Joining faith to reason does not make a belief in a mystical diety any more reasonable than by faith alone.

2007-12-05 17:29:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Just because one believes something, doesn't make it true or fact. Think about it.

2007-12-05 09:28:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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