They trade away all their best players. Twins - Santana, Nathan, Hunter. Marlins - Every good pklayer they have ever had. Should baseball eliminate these teams or force them to move to promote competitivness?
2007-12-05 00:00:24 · 13 answers · asked by sugarpie2 5 in Sports ➔ Baseball
I realize the Twins have been in the playoffs 4 of the last 6 years, but they are throwing in the towel on next year already. Just like the Marlins won it all in 97 and traded their entire roster within 2 months of the series win.
2007-12-05 04:38:29 · update #1
Not necessarily, but it would be a definite positive if MLB could eliminate the current owners of those teams.
I reserve deathwishing for a very small amount of particularly pernicious people, and the owner of a baseball team would never qualify based upon that one role. Pohlad is in his 90s, and while I don't wish death upon him, I'm not gonna miss him when he goes. If preceded by total financial ruin, that would be sweetly ironic, but is too much to hope for. Realize that one of the primary reasons why Pohlad IS a multibillionaire is that he is extremely tight with his money, and isn't about to change. If "try to win championship" isn't enough of a profit gain over "have good season, stay home in October" then he'll immediately settle for the latter, and player payroll will reflect that.
Loria in Miami is one of Bud's BFFs. He's more than happy to put a lame, CHEAP team on the field and soak up huge gobs of revenue sharing, and yet still cry about needing a new playpen. Loria is, well, not the sole reason why baseball is no longer in Montreal, but he was the closer for that rigged deal, and part of his reward is the personal ATM known as the Florida Marlins.
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the teams. The people running them, however, are unquestionably flawed.
2007-12-05 00:14:51 · answer #1 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 5⤊ 1⤋
They should not eliminate team either team for not trying to be competitive because in fact, both teams have had great success. The Marlins have only been around for 15 seasons, yet they've won 2 World Series, which is more than the Mets, Braves, Phillies or any other team that's spent crazy amounts of money trying to build a competitive team. The Twins, they've not won World Series, but they've been a rather dominant team in the AL Central, having won numerous division titles over the past decade (I believe they've won 4 of the last 6 and maybe another if you go back a few more years). The truth of the matter is that all a team needs to be competitive is good drafting, a good farm system, and the right coach, something both teams typically have.
The MLB should eliminate both teams though for not trying to put fans in the seats. Fans, many times, will go to a game, not to watch their favorite team play (whether they are winning or losing) but to watch players. The Giants have had numerous sellout crowds over the past few seasons, which has had nothing to do with their record (which has been pretty bad), but its had everything to do with Bonds and his pursuit of history. The biggest problem I see with teams like Florida or Minnesota is that as soon as fans grow to like a player they trade him away. After a while, fans just stop caring.
2007-12-05 01:08:06 · answer #2 · answered by Kyle H 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
they do try to be competitive, they are at a disadvantage because the twin cities doesnt have the population of say new york, boston or la and so they cant bring in the kind of money the teams in the mega markets can, the twins also cannot form something like YES, with such constraints they cant afford to play huge salaries because if they did they couldnt field a full team, so when a player they have gets good and becomes available for free agency (torri hunter this year, santana next year) they simply cant afford to keep him
thats when boston, the yankees, mets, angels, dodgers, orioles for instance, swoop and get him
what baseball needs to do is get some better revenue sharing like the nfl has
football has successfully kept a team in green f#$%ing bay, wisconsin
living in wisconsin, i can tell you that a town that small should never be able to come up with the income to keep a professionla franchise alive much less get good players
if the nfl didnt make the new york teams share revenue with a team like green bay, it would always be the large market teams winning the super bowl, instead every team has a chance
in baseball it is invariably the bigger market teams that win, teams with money
instead of eliminating teams the bigger market teams should realize it makes good buisness sense to allow for a more even playing field, but until people like the steinbrenners and don fehr realize that, teams like florida, minnesota and the now defunct expos will suffer
2007-12-05 02:54:18 · answer #3 · answered by denisgack 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The Marlins have won two World Series rings in the last ten years. It's called rebuilding. Baseball is a business. The Twins were a powerhouse in late eighties and early nineties. Look a the Detroit Tigers. Teams go in cycles. That being said, they should lose the Tampa Bay Rays.
2007-12-05 01:40:10 · answer #4 · answered by SL1Y 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The twins have been very competitive over the last several years and they will be strong even without Santana. Florida has won 2 worldseries. There are teams playing in a market that really has no interest in watching them play (like Florida or Tampa) so perhaps based on a lack of interest you'd move these teams into other markets but not based on lack of competitiveness.
2007-12-05 00:10:09 · answer #5 · answered by zwerp2000 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Marlins have won two World Series since they came into the league....how can you say they don't even try to be competitive? Maybe they just have a less traditional way of trying to build a winner...Twins also have been to the playoffs several times in recent history...they, too, are just in a different phase because they know they won't have the money to hang on to Santana so why not get some prospects for him? I could see if you were making a case for Tampa Bay not being competitive since they have finished in last place all but one season since they came into the league but I don't agree that the two teams you are looking at aren't competitive...they are just in a different phase than other teams.
2007-12-05 00:09:00 · answer #6 · answered by JT-24 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
To add to the above answer, the Marlins won the WS 2 times already. That is as much as the Mets!
2007-12-05 00:09:18 · answer #7 · answered by Frank P 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I agree about the Marlins but not the Twins.
2007-12-05 01:47:58 · answer #8 · answered by Scooter_loves_his_dad 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
As far as the marlins go,the city of Miami,needs to actually go to the games,the team need support from the city to remain competitive and i don't think Miami has shown it's allegiance to the marlins.
2007-12-05 00:39:51 · answer #9 · answered by Tribe of benjamin 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No.
Maybe a better question would be, is it the teams with the most money that have the best chance of winning the world series? Revenue sharing.
2007-12-05 00:13:05 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋