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Seen as deplorable, man-haters who can't wait until all males are annihilated?
Isn't this just as illogical as women saying that all men are chauvinists?
Or is this reasoning that all feminists are bad, based on what men have missed out on in regards to equality?
Do you think that all feminists are are cut from the same cloth and are all to blame for men's woes?

2007-12-03 23:16:33 · 17 answers · asked by Shivers 6 in Social Science Gender Studies

Well I really have to agree with you there Cassius. That scum manifesto was absolutely disgusting. Can imagine the uproar if a man had written something similar against all women. Shoe on other foot doesn't feel nice to me, so it wouldn't make men feel all that good either. :(

2007-12-03 23:56:41 · update #1

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This is just a diversion tactic. You paint the opposite side as evil, and it makes your side look much better. It's all public relations, really.

2007-12-04 03:58:07 · answer #1 · answered by Rio Madeira 7 · 5 5

There is a rather good quote attributed to Aristotle which reads to the effect that:
" Anyone can become angry. That is easy. But to be angry with the right person, to the right degree, at the right time, for the right reason, and in the right way...this is not easy. "
Many feminists opt for the easy way of venting their spleen. They blame others for all the evils that befall them. By using vitriol and vociferation, specious accusations and suppositious claims they endeavor to vilify, belittle humiliate, chastise and demean men so as to bolster their own frail egos. Many feminists are so imbued with misandric propaganda that they can no longer differentiate between being 'assertive' and being 'aggressive'. Many don't even realize that their individual arrogance and bad manners have contributed to the loss of support that the Feminist movement has sustained over the last decade. Some feminists are still working under the false assumption that it is better to be confrontational (rude, belligerent, offensive) in order to make a point, rather than to strive to reach an amicable agreement by means of convivial rapport. This is not how one should behave. Anytime you hear or see a gender specific comment that is not prefaced with words which denote the fact that the comment does not (nor could ever) pertain to all males you are merely coming into contact with a sexist (anti male) generalization. Misandric propaganda of the worst type.
Most feminists are decent, rational, thinking human beings who are far more interested in the betterment of mankind and the advancement of the species as a whole than they are with their own self interest and aggenda. There are, of course, the exceptions. These people should be treated with the distain they so rightfully deserve.
As the famous Scotish poet, Robert Burns once put it:
"Life was not meant to be easy, but take heart my child, nor was it meant to be hell", and so too for the living together of the sexes. Don't be too quick to judge......anyone.

2007-12-04 13:49:23 · answer #2 · answered by Ashleigh 7 · 2 2

A feminist is (dictionary definition):
A person who believes that women and men should have the same rights.
By that definition there is no more avid feminist than I am, and I'm not only not a man-hater but some of my best friends are men.
If in particular you're talking about women feminists, I still think you have problems. Who exactly sees "all" feminists as deplorable man-haters? Is it all men, or all women who are not feminists?
Okay lets reduce it to why are some feminist women seen as deplorable, man-haters by some people?
Okay, I have a not so great answer. Anytime a person or group tries to change the fabric of our society they will be met with a lot of hostility by those who feel they're being reduced personally in the process. Their way of thinking, acting, believing is being threatened and for that you get a lot of hateful response.

2007-12-04 04:22:24 · answer #3 · answered by rrsvvc 4 · 5 3

Stereotyping all feminists is not equivalent to stereotyping all men, though of course both involve simplistic generalizations.

A better analogy might be between saying all feminists are man-haters and all men's rights activists (or all critics of feminism) are woman-haters.

In any case, blaming feminism for every disappointment and frustration men face is obviously scapegoating.

And no: feminists are NOT all the same. Nor are all, most, or even more than a few to blame for much of any of the problems men face. Some are dismissive of those problems, but they aren't the cause of them.

2007-12-03 23:31:55 · answer #4 · answered by Gnu Diddy! 5 · 6 4

It's a simplistic way of thinking. It's easier to say all feminists hate men, or all feminists think "xyz", so you can dismiss whatever they say, since it upsets you, or because you need someone to blame. It's not any different than when women say all men are dreadful because a couple of men hurt them or when men say all women are evil because their ex-wife or their ex-girlfriend hurt them as well.

2007-12-04 13:12:59 · answer #5 · answered by edith clarke 7 · 1 3

Whenever you say "ALL people who are X believe Y" (insert whatever group you want into X and any stereotype into Y) it is illogical (and scientifically unknowable).

No group has identical beliefs. Just look at all the politicians that call themselves "republicans" yet they don't have the same beliefs. We wouldn't need debates and primaries if all members of group held identical beliefs. It is the same for feminists (or men or Christians or liberals, whatever)

2007-12-04 02:12:51 · answer #6 · answered by Libby anne 2 · 4 4

The majority of feminists are not man haters, but if you have two groups (a feminist one and a non-feminist one), and pick 1 person from each group, chances are that, if one of those 2 is a man-hater, it will be the feminist one. Why? Feminism creates a scapegoat to man-haters. Simple as that. It may not be their intention, but if at least 20 percent of man-haters (which is far more little than the real number) went into feminism, there would be more feminist man haters than non feminist ones. SImple, and logical, as that.
But those feminists are the "sorority" and "powerful" ones. Those in the middle are very intelligent, just like most people who take a stand in gender issues.
Blue Star: "men" is not the opposite from "feminists".

2007-12-03 23:27:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 7 7

No it is not as "illogical as women saying that all men are chauvinists" as people don't generally saying that "all women are deplorable, man-haters who can't wait until all males are annihilated". There's a big difference "all women" and "feminists". The former is a sex. The latter is an ideology that believes "all men are deplorable". You can't subscribe to an ideology with certain core beliefs and then claim you're exempt from them.

2007-12-04 00:52:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 7 7

There are some who believe this, but there are some who believe many radical things. I think sometimes you have to use your own judgment, these people generally aren't worth your time or effort.

2007-12-04 00:04:48 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

Thanks for asking a great question.
I have to agree with Susan Faludi on this one.
Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women is the title of a 1991 nonfiction book by Pulitzer Prize winner Susan Faludi, which argues for the existence of a media driven "backlash" against the feminist advances of the 1970's. Faludi argues that this backlash posits the women's liberation movement as the source of many of the problems alleged to be plaguing women in the late 1980's. She also argues that many of these problems are illusory, constructed by the media without reliable evidence. According to Faludi, the backlash is also a historical trend, generally recurring when it appears that women have made substantial gains in their efforts to obtain equal rights.

2007-12-04 02:46:02 · answer #10 · answered by Deirdre O 7 · 6 7

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