obama or clinton for '08? and why?

Answer 1

Neither. I cannot vote for Obama - because he (and his wife) are pro-PARTIAL BIRTH abortion.

It is true. In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fundraising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the country, and that the ‘so-called’ PARTIAL-BIRTH abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

What about the protection of that infant? If it is a healthy baby, and the mother had the chance to terminate when termination should occur - there is no reason for this option - as in many of the abortions performed within the USA.

No matter how you debate it, reason with it, or whatever - that is just cruel and WRONG. The baby's head comes out - up to the neck - and the doctor then hacks in the lower portion of the back of the head - while they allow the brains to be sucked out and let it die?!? This is insane and is nothing more than torture to an innocent infant. Even the Supreme Court of our land knows this!

Look, I don't know if you know this but around 80% of the population disagrees with this stance, so you need to be aware of this. Just Google “Obama partial birth abortion letter” or something similar if you want more sources to research this hot topic.

Obama also defended the rights of hospitals in Illinois to let children die outside the womb by repeatedly opposing the Born Alive Infant Protection Act against infanticide and he is against parental notification laws! I cannot endorse that.

Despite being portrayed as a moderate, he is also against traditional marriage, including the Defense of Marriage Act.

Obama voted AGAINST filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.

Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches. PRESENT? Why not NO - this a rhetorical question.
But my main reason is my unsettling feelings regarding his voting record on abortion.

I would much rather have Kucinich on the Democratic ticket as candidate of choice - and who at least had the brass tacks to try and impeach Bush, close our borders, he would NOT revoke our rights according to the 2nd Amendment. He will get a grip on immigration, keep our Bill of Rights and our Constitution, and he voted against the Patriot Act…and no North American Union.

Instead Obama who, has on the record voted TWICE AGAINST bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.

Lastly, Obama was in California at Garfield High School and told the students listening to him that, if elected, he would give illegals funding to get a sholarship to go to college, making it a level playing field for both American born, naturalized citizen and ILLEGAL all the same. Now, look, I cannot endorse a president who puts illegals equal with American citizens, and those who followed our laws and got naturalized. Why should your, or my tax dollars, pay for an education for an ILLEGAL? When all I could get was a loan that had to be paid back to citbank for nearly 10 years after I got my degree? Do the dreams of a college going illegal alien mean more than my dreams or your dreams? No free ride any more - you get legal or out!

Hillary is being groomed by Bush - no more Clinton/Bush/Bush and again Clinton - and Hillary and Bill are in favor of PARTIAL BIRTH abortions! "Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and their allies blocked this law for 12 years -- but finally, it is illegal in America to mostly deliver a premature infant before puncturing her skull and removing her brain, which is what a partial-birth abortion is," commented Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Writing for a 5-4 majority, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote, "The Act proscribes a method of abortion in which a fetus is killed just inches before completion of the birth process. . . Congress determined that the abortion methods it proscribed had a 'disturbing similarity to the killing of a newborn infant.' . . ." The majority ruled that a general ban on the method is permissible and does not violate the general "abortion right" enunciated in past decisions such as Roe v. Wade (1973) and Casey v. Planned Parenthood (1992).

NRLC, the nation's major right-to-life organization, led the coalition that resulted in enactment of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act in 2003, after an eight-year fight. President Bill Clinton vetoed the ban twice. When it passed the Senate in 2003, it was over the nay vote of Senator Hillary Clinton.

NEW YORK, October 31, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – It has been revealed that leading Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has received thousands in campaign funds from the Cold Spring Harbour Laboratories under the directorship of Dr. James Watson. Watson recently resigned his position from the lab after his comments to British media were dubbed “racist.”

In June this year, Clinton, with fellow New York Democrat Charles E. Schumer, requested that the lab, a leading proponent of human genetic experimentation, receive US $900,000 of taxpayer funds. Federal campaign filings show that Watson donated more than $70,000 to Democrat candidates and their political causes, including a total of $3,000 directly to Clinton’s campaign fund.

The donation from Watson, a fervent supporter of eugenic abortion and the use of embryos for genetic research, is well in line with Clinton’s militancy on abortion and embryonic stem cell research.

The Washington Times quotes a spokesman for Sen. Tom Harkin, the chairman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee on labor, health, human services and education, saying that in part due to the recent controversy over Watson’s comments, the earmark (Clinton requested tax grant) is unlikely to go forward.

Eugenics is nothing more than population control by the elite.

What this means is this: This means that Obama and Clinton, as president, will use my (and yours) tax dollars to fund partial birth abortions which I feel are ethically, and morally wrong - regardless of politics, an infant does not deserve that. In fact, not even an animal deserves that. I don't want any blood on my hands due to this....it is nothing more than infant genocide.

Just something to consider, as well my two pence...

Answer 2

Given the choice between the two, Obama by far. He's more honest, less corrupted, far more intelligent, more inspiring, and less decisive. Hillary Clinton will bring in another 4-8 years like the last 7 years - corruption, scandals, a divided America at each other's throats. While people may disagree with Obama's policies, he's respectful and doesn't have a history of screwing people like Hillary does. How it's even close at this point is mind blowing. The Clinton's lie nonstop. Bill just lied about his support of the Iraq war this week. She changes positions on critical issues. Obama was against the war from the start. Clinton is involved in two major campaign finance scandals, both of which are the biggest in US history (Hsu+Peter Paul/Stan Lee).

Answer 3

If there was a possiblity of running together Clinton has ruined it by attacking Obama too much. I think both candidates should select a running mate before the next primary.

Answer 4

Neither can win the presidency. However, the democrapic party has historically screwed itself over after making inroads towards gaining influence in the US. I have little doubt that it's poor constituency will live up to their lowly reputation and be nothing more than a speed bump again.

It's funny that with this huge mandate that all the poor wittle dems sent their representatives to congress with has gone completely unfulfilled. It's also funny that their constituency is still gullible enough to blame anyone but their precious congress. Carry on DEMS. We all need a good laugh.

Answer 5

Hillary Clinton of course. She's very powerful and it would be great if she became the First Female US President.

I'm not going to pick Obama not because he's Black but because he's just another Male President.

Let's give women at least some chances to be in a bigger role in today's society.

With the help of Bill Clinton who has greater experience of being a president, who could become a great 2nd hand for Hillary Clinton.

As for Obama, I don't know wheter or not he has a powerful first lady by his side at all... I can't seem to picture him sitting at the White House but for Hillary Clinton I can ;)

Answer 6

Hillary Clinton has the intelligence and experience as a lawyer, Senator and former First Lady in order to be an excellent President.

VOTE for your choice as US President on my 360 degrees blog and know who will likely win.

Answer 7

Right now I would say Clinton will get the democratic nomination. However, she will not be successful in her bid for the presidency. It is not only her negatives and the polarization she creates but also America is not yet ready for a woman president. The white, male republican candidate will be successful in winning the presidency.

Answer 8

Obama he is the best. He cares about what the people want not special interest. Hillary can't win against a republican unless it is Rudy, because she has too many scandals in her past. Her voice and cackle grate on my nerves.

Answer 9

Look at the map. Count the electoral votes. Nominating either assures four more years of Republican rule.

Answer 10

Neither. Mike Huckabee is the man.

Answer 11

Hilary had her chance and she blew it.

Obama is interesting. He is very smart, but very young. He would make a really interesting president, for sure.