Will Guiliani get alot of votes from liberals for the general election?

Question

Guiliani is a liberal running as a democrat. He supports pro choice which will attract the vote of pro choice female voters. He supports gay marriage. He also supports gun control.

Answer 1

No liberal I know will vote for Giuliani. And, he's not running as a democrat, he's running as a republican. He's as corrupt as Bush and he's Bush on steroids. If you value civil liberties and your Constitution, like liberals do, you won't vote for Giuliani. He's an authoritarian, not a liberal. He's even said he is a liberal's worst nightmare.

Answer 2

First of all you clearly do not know much about what Guiliani stands for. Agreed he is pro choice. But from his website on
Gun Control
"Rudy Giuliani is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. He understands that every law-abiding American has an individual right to keep and bear arms that is guaranteed by the Constitution."
and Marriage
"Rudy Giuliani believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He does not—and has never—supported gay marriage"

But even if what you were saying was true - that hardly makes him a liberal. Gutting services for the poor in order to arbitrarily cut taxes while pretending to be acting on principle has seen poverty increase, debt spiral and median incomes fall as we slide towards the second recession of the Bush administration. Why would liberals vote for more of this just because a guy supports a constitutional right that he couldn't take away anyway?
Why would we want another neo-con using 9/11 as an excuse to further US corporate interests through aggression clearly against international law.
Rudy is not a liberal, and it is hard to see why any liberals would disregard the real thing (eg Obama) for this guy.

Answer 3

--Giuliani's-- lame act only plays with conservatives; or, haven't you been getting your recommended dosage of FOX BS.

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jessicaisbeautiful –

Interesting answer with many sold points—except that Reagan did not end the Cold War. It ended because the Soviet superpower image applied only to its nuclear capability. It was otherwise an illusion; a shell of false bravado over a worthless economy and the political strain of trying to administer a nation that covered 12 times zones and contained more than 100 distinct ethnic nationalities, not to mention its tight-fisted control over much of eastern Europe.

Beneath the façade of military might (and much of its military equipment was junk as well), absolutely everything produced and manufactured by the Soviets was complete garbage. Soviet citizens used to have to stand to the side when turning on their TVs because of the frequency with which they would explode (often with fatal consequences) when powered up. The Russian Soviet system was further weakened by a ruling leadership that was even more stupid than Reagan and greedier for wealth and power than any American corporation or political party

The only reason the charade lasted as long as it did was because of the benefits and rewards maintaining belief in its reality generated for America’s own Military Industrial Complex. It was, to no small degree, a con job played by both governments against the people of both nations.

Answer 4

It depends on who is running on the Democratic side. Rudy will still lose no matter if a few switch because more from the Republican to Democratic party.

Answer 5

I believe that as people get to know him better, his support will fade. He seems too eager to tell people what he thinks they want to hear, and gets mad if people bring up his actual record. And on a personal level, the three wives, the government-paid assignations with his mistress and the tacky press conference divorce are hard to overlook.

Answer 6

With any luck at all, his immediate family will reconsider before they vote for him. Why not write your own name in for president. If we all did that we would have about 260,000,000 idiots in charge of our country, instead of just the one

Answer 7

In my opinion, he is himself gay. So I am not voting for him.

Answer 8

He does NOT support gay marriage, he only supports civil unions.. In a past debate he stated that if gay marriages became to "popular" he would pass an amendment banning them..

And no liberal in their right mind would support him, he is just as much of hawk on foreign policy as Cheney and Bush.

EDIT: well said Sageandscholar, may I ask which candidate you support?

EDIT: Thanks for your response, Sageandscholar. I like Gore and Edwards very much. I’ve been hoping for either an Edwards or Biden win on the democratic side, but at this point it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

As for Senator Obama, I have about a million criticisms.. everything from his corporate/lobbyists/special interests influence, his vote reauthorizing the Patriot Act, his co-sponsoring a bill designating the IRG a terrorist organization and etc.. maybe you can respond to my issues with Senator Obama, as I have to yours with Congressman Paul.

Anyways the poster selected a best answer for the “Why do you dislike Ron Paul” question, so I couldn’t post a response back to you there, but here it is:

The interest paid on the national debt goes to the financial industry. The financial industry borrows at the Fed Funds Rate and buys Treasury bonds, using 100x or more leverage.

The wealth confiscated by income taxes and paid in interest on the national debt doesn't vanish into thin air. It winds up in someone's pockets.

And who said anything about this being a scam? I realize that it is a system and that’s the way it works.

1)Regressive? A progressive tax is just hidden wealth redistribution and why should people be punished for being more successful? “it will move the burden of taxation away from the rich towards the poor” He is only advocating eliminating the income tax, he does not want to replace it with a sales/value added tax, it doesn’t hurt anyone.


2) Did you ever read the link YOU presented to me? It clearly stated that the FED “is a quasi-governmental/quasi-private banking system”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

I’ve done my research on your claim, I found this case interesting..
LEWIS v. UNITED STATES, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)

John L. Lewis, Plaintiff/Appellant,
v.
United States of America, Defendant/Appellee.

No. 80-5905
United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.
Submitted March 2, 1982.
Decided April 19, 1982.
As Amended June 24, 1982.

Plaintiff, who was injured by vehicle owned and operated by a federal reserve bank, brought action alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Claims Act.

The United States District Court for the Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., dismissed holding that federal reserve bank was not a federal agency
within meaning of Act and that the court therefore lacked subject-matter jurisdiction. Appeal was taken. The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.

Affirmed."

And from my understanding, the list of nominees are chosen from a list provided to the president by the Federal Reserve. The Fed makes money directly "because of federal legal tender laws and it's own policies such as the reserve ratio that it sets for itself, or the interest rates that it sets for itself, whereas other contractors actually have to perform a service and generally have to bid for the opportunity to provide that service.

Okay why is that the dollar has inflated so much since the FED’s creation?

M3 is the issue, it includes the money that really affects the economy. The M3 is what is devaluing the currency.

3) This is something someone pointed out, "Because the federal government and the EPA have done such a wonderful job of keeping our environment clean up to this point. I know, I know, we've haven't had the smartest politicians in office for quite some time. If only we could find one that was benevolent and really cared about the environment, they'd be sure to fix it for good!" lol

But do I understand what your saying, let me just clarify. He’s pointed out that the current Tort system that has resulted in a loss of property rights, which he would fix. He’s also pointed out that the current Tort system does NOT protect fully environmental rights - primarily air, water and land pollution, which he also plans to fix. And lastly he has suggested we incorporate significant tax breaks to those companies who undertake renewable energy production - including wind and solar power.

4) Why do we need these organizations to network and communicate in this day and age? Reagan was able to end the Cold War by calling Gorbachev up directly. Global organizations like the UN, IMF, NATO and WTO do not provide global solutions to global problems, but instead perpetuate them.

These organizations pose threats to our national sovereignty and commit American military forces to situations that don’t serve in our national interest.

And in an era of a “globalized economy” why should we give so much of our purchasing power away? The path to world peace relies on everyone working together, not a welfare check. Why should our government borrow money on top of our national debt to give away to other countries? Is it their job to provide for America or the rest of the world?

Ron Paul advocates using trade and diplomacy, not secluding ourselves from the world.

You should read this:
"A Paul administration would see Americans engaged overseas like never before, in business and cultural activities. But a Paul administration would never attempt to export democracy or other values at the barrel of a gun, as we have seen over and over again that this is a counterproductive approach that actually leads the United States to be resented and more isolated in the world."

http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...9...


5) Vague? He’s been SPECIFIC about everything he wants to cut. And bringing back armed forces increases the security of America, he is for a stronger national defense.


6) Ban on gay adoptions? are you talking about his vote in the House appropriations bill for the District of Columbia? He opposed the use of federal funds for promoting adoption in DC. I don't believe there is any indication that he was speaking out against gay adoptions.

"We must recognize the government led space program is dead and the corpse must be buried as soon as possible. Any defense functions should be put under the military, and the rest of NASA should be sold to private operators." From a paper Dr. Paul wrote for his 1988 presidential run,

The ban on abortion was to overturn Roe V. Wade, which in itself was unconstitutional, he supports leaving it up to the states as it should be.

Dr. Paul does not support a federal voucher program, he supports leaving education up to the states as stated in the Constitution. He wants to end Federal government interference in public education, NOT public education.. The states have departments of education,. If there was no fed government interference, then state departments would have more flexibility/funds to address the problems of their state in specific areas.

I can elaborate further is you still have any issues..