Will women ever admit that men are Smartest and dumbest of the species?

Question

There have been so many studies on the intelligence of men and women plus thousands of years as proof.
Im not talking about the individual intellegence but the 2 genders as a whole.
You cannot dispute the fact that most of the discoveries and advancments were made by men.
Most studies show that women usually take up the middle ground with the majority of geniuses being men.

Thanks guns fan for the sources:

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/08iq...

http://www.fmwf.com/newsarticle.php?id=1...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/ar...

http://www.metro.co.uk/metrosexual/artic...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/educa...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...

Also if anyone knows of pivotal discoveries made by women please let me know.

Try the links now
http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/08iq.htm

http://www.fmwf.com/newsarticle.php?id=1429&cat=5

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770

http://www.metro.co.uk/metrosexual/article.html?in_article_id=19712&in_page_id=8

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4183166.stm

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97662&page=3

Answer 1

Studies have shown that men are better at dealing with abstract information -- better visual-spatial capabilities. This translates into men being better problem solvers, particularly in the sciences like mathematics and engineering. Women are better at verbal skills, which probably translates to better on average english skills like writing.

What do these things mean in the real world?

The ability of men to deal with abstract knowledge better (particularly the top % of males) means they are generally the great problem solvers. Men produce the vast majority of new information for society that is considered knowledge. For example, 99% of inventions are by men, 99.99% of mathematical theory is by men ..etc. It really can't be argued that women were held back in education in the last 100 years in math. There have been many women only colleges since 1900 (probably more than men only colleges), and these women only colleges failed to turn out any great mathematicians. No one prevented them from doing so.

In areas like chess, men dominate. The top 100 men chess players in the world are far better than the top 100 women chess players (this is not even close). Many international chess competitions still have a separate category for women in tournaments. In the French Chess championship, the top men averaged almost 300 points higher rating than the top women in the women's division (100 point higher rating in high level chess is a significant difference).

See … http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4076

Another good example of where this ability of men to solve problems better is the IMO (International Math Olympiad), an international math competition for 20 year old and under students with no post secondary education.

See ... http://imo2006.dmfa.si/index.html

This math competition is dominated by males year after year. The top scores (Gold medals) are by males year after year. IIRC, there was an article in New Scientist that stated -- to the effect -- that boys and girls achieved about the same marks in high-school. But another article (a few months later) on education stated that boys were doing 1/2 the homework in high-school as the girls (they were wondering how to get boys more motivated in school). If the boys are doing 1/2 the work and achieving the same marks, then just looking at the results (marks in high school) surely doesn’t tell the whole story. Boys are harder to motivate, but once they have a passion for something they can pursue it more "aggressively" than girls. Once you get the boys motivated to actually do some studying, make the problems a little more challenging, the differences can really start to show up. Like in the IMO.

" … In one Johns Hopkins University study of gifted pre-adolescent students, boys outperformed girls among the top scoring students on math by 13-to-1…."

See … http://www.kimberlyswygert.com/archives/002589.html

The ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest is another competition that is even more dominated by men than the Math Olympiad …

See ... http://icpc.baylor.edu/past/default.htm

Perhaps the most striking area where this difference between men and women makes itself felt is in music composition. In classical musical composition there has never been what could be considered a “first-rank” female composer. We have Mozart, Bach, Handel, Beethoven … etc., but women composers are a footnote in the history of classical composition. One is hard pressed to find even any minor composers that are female that did anything of significance in classical music. The situation for the composition of musical scores for movies (sometimes referred to as program music -- very similar to classical composition) today is no different than it was over 200 years ago in the time of Mozart -- men completely dominate. From the theme to 007, Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Zhivago … etc., all these moves have musical scores written by men. One would likely be very hard pressed to find even 1 or 2 movies in the top 250 at IMDB with music scored by a women -- it just isn’t one of their strengths.

There have been many women pianists/violin players, and they play very well, but playing compositions is largely a feat of memorization. One can't create a new composition by memorization, and there is no concrete rule-book on what the next note should be in a composition, so the problem is largely abstract. The rise of Jazz and big-band era music in the US since the year 1900 is another example where men did virtually all the composing. This is despite the fact that it's very likely that more women than men in middle and upper class families since 1900 took music lessons and played the piano or other musical instruments.

The sooner women realize that men have intellectual strengths that give them advantages in certain areas over women (and women over men) the better off society will be. Feminists can drop the pretense that somehow in many fields that the top performers are male because there is some sort of bias or discrimination against women. So they plead for legislation, affirmative action programs and outright blatant preferences in these fields for women simply because of their gender. And these feminists can stop blaming men for the under-performance of women in these fields. The top 100 female chess players (performance wise) are not worth nearly the same pay as the top 100 men chess players.

Answer 2

question is not that whether men dislike smart women.. The question is why u consider urself smart? As such all man would accept to have a smart women as GF but ofcourse noone like oversmart and proudy women.. I understand ur subtle sarcasm when u say this. But then males are not always so dominating and unreasonable to women... Secondly , understanding and love in a relationship has nothing to do with smartness or IQ.. its more of principles and acceptance for each other.. Smart people always end up meeting people smarter than himself/herself.. Instead look for someone who accepts u for what U r and love U.. Being smart is good .. Being wise is even better...

Answer 3

I hate to say this, but the "average male" exists only in the mind of the "average female". Pseudo scientific studies will tell us that somewhere between congenital idiot and genetic throwback there is a sub-species call "Real Men". So where then are all the "Real Women"? Gender specific vilification sells books and magazines to the same sex that abhors sexism. Go figure out the odds of that not being an act of hypocrisy?

Answer 4

"Will women ever admit that men are SMARTEST and DUMBEST of the species?" - People, read that question more carefully! Dan is taking the piss out of us!

I'm no mangina but the same applies to women too.

I like Ashleigh's observation: "I hate to say this, but the "average male" exists only in the mind of the "average female". Right on!

[redhedsweethart] Gosh, I hadn't realised you were that old! Your avatar looks so young.

Answer 5

From one of the articles:

"British-born researcher John Philippe Rushton, who previously created a furore by suggesting intelligence is influenced by race, says the finding could explain why so few women make it to the top in the workplace."

Where will we hear about Mr. Rushton in the future? Probably in an article such as this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2687364.ece

Humble and humiliated.

Answer 6

You are a setting a pretty good example for being the dumbest of the species, Dan.

I'm not writing another list about women inventors/scientists/authors etc. If you are so smart, do your own research before you make such a claim.

Answer 7

Its a generalization of men, but not all men are smart. Women can be just as smart as men http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4079653.stm But it really depends on the individual. Some people are smarter then others regardless of gender.

Answer 8

Ada Lovelace
http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/lovelace.html

Marie Curie
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1903/marie-curie-bio.html

Marilyn vos Savant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant

These are some women off the top of my little peabrain head.

Are you feeling insecure or what? There are plenty of women geniuses, they generally don't get as much recognition, though. But what do I know? I'm a female!

Thanks for fixing your links. I'm confused, though. If men are so much smarter than women, why is it that my Ph.D. husband can't even measure the sugar properly when he's helping me in the kitchen?

These so called "studies" can't just test a group of people and apply it the the whole human race.

A quote from one of the articles:

"But the Edinburgh psychologists have tested 2,500 brothers and sisters, all brought up to have the same high expectations, and given them tests in science, maths, English and are far more stupid mechanical ability. They have discovered that women tend to be better at languages".

I can't take any article seriously with grammar that bad.

Answer 9

Dan, seriously, what's the point of all this? Is this Internet chest-beating time for some men again who feel the need to prove themselves through their gender?
Ok, many men are smart, but what do you guys want? A medal to pin on your chests or what?

Answer 10

You really can't see the bigger picture can you? Life isn't about any of that. My philosophy in life "Treat everyone with politeness, even those who are rude to you - not because they are nice, but because you are." It doesn't take much to be a rude arrogant person, it takes a lot more to be a kind selfless human being.