Yes, I understand that horse slaughter in its current form is bad, because the animals suffer, but if we end it altogether what's going to happen to all those horses? They'll be shipped somewhere where there are no humanitarian laws. Horse slaughter needs to be CHANGED, not ended.
2007-12-02
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This question was sparked by this one:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoNWdotUVzmuaWnvY9AX87WQ.Rd.;_ylv=3?qid=20071202140705AAS0dps
2007-12-02
15:53:23 ·
update #1
What is the point of answering when you have nothing of value to say?
2007-12-02
15:54:09 ·
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They are uneducated people ranting about something they know nothing about, horse slaughter. Furthermore, they don't care to know because it is more PC to get on their HIGH HORSE (have to giggle at that myself) and spout garbage often enough that they are actually believing in what they are saying. I've never been to a chicken slaughterhouse but I'll bet that they don't pick up each and every single chicken, bless it, and cleanly chop off it's head, holding it tenderly until it quits flopping around like a chicken with it's head chopped off (gee, I'd better get some sleep, I can't quit) My point is, we actually sat on our thumbs [me included] and let it happen...you know the saying, ...."a few good men do nothing." Next thing you know, we will have to smuggle our beef home in a brown paper wrapper labeled tofu.
2007-12-04 00:34:05
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answered by Anonymous
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I will only say this: to Mulereiner, Lisa M, and all of the other regulars here- are you aware that the Carvel plant in IL, outside of Chicago, has won a permit to reopen from the 7th US Court of Appeals? This has been granted by the judge to allow the plant to operate and accept horses for slaughter while the owner challenges the legal right of the state to ban the practice. I read about this only yesterday, and the source the information came from was Practical Horseman- they had a note in there about the decision, which was made just as last month's issue ( I can't believe it's December already, can you?) was going to the press. I checked the website, and it turns out that the information is in fact true. Just thought you'd all want to know..... I am not going to get involved in the debate, I have had enough of thinking about it. Most of you know I am pro- slaughter, not because I hate horses or love the slaughter plants, but because I recognize the necessity of the process. I DO believe the process can and should be made more humane and less tragic for the animals involved,, and that it can be improved upon overall, but what's happened now is a huge mistake that all of us in this horse business are going to pay for, no matter who we are. I have already heard reports of horses being abandoned and maltreated in different parts of the country, or being left to starve, and I fear that this is only going to get worse. The reopening of the Carvel plant is a good thing, if you ask me, even if it's only temporary. Just an update....
2007-12-03 13:16:30
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answered by Starlight 1 7
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Yes, what is going to happen to 90,000 unwanted horses each year. Ask my husband who is an equine vet and had to go out just last week on a neglect case of 19 horses. I HATE slaughter but I agree that closing the plants is the last thing we need BUT we do need definite change in the way the animals are treated when transported. I will not comment on what happens at the plants because I have never been to one and unless you've really been there, you have no clue. I go by what my husband tells me but even then I really can't say.
There's so much more to this than the actual plants.
Write your congressman and representatives if you want change. That's the only way it will happen.
2007-12-03 10:03:15
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answered by shelly l 3
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Thank you. A horse is large and it will die one day. Those who deny that also deny that there is noplace to bury half-a-ton for free.
In my small hometown was a kiling place, it was great, they took horses, treated them kindly and made them be dead. The local water system couldn't handle the blood & etc, the subject was too gross or babyfied for anyone to deal with, so they closed the place down. Now horses from my area have to ride 36 hours before they have the relief of dying.
Everyone who knows horses knows that they suffer during long shipments, not when they die. And horses don't care at all what becomes of their carcass.
2007-12-02 23:45:45
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answered by noname 7
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I've just finished sticking pins in my eyes - what was you saying?
This question is posted at least once per day and gone over and disected, nothing changes, nobody changes their opinions and ultimately it gets nasty and people start sending evil emails and IM's because you are pro-slaughter. I think you'll find that most people will whole-heartedly agree with you but it's one of those subjects that just keep getting
rehashed.
**Starlight - I do think that is good news because there are way too many horses, too little funds and not enough people willing to adopt. I do think though that this country needs to have a live export ban so that horses cannot be shipped to Mexico and Canada for slaughter - that's what they did in the UK to prevent horses travelling to France and Belgium, instead they were slaughtered in the UK under strict regulations - good piece of info - thanks*******
2007-12-02 23:44:39
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answered by lisa m 6
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What I do not understand is why no one looks at previously asked questions first before posting one of their own! I do so when I have a question and normally I find the answer...obviously this is not being done...at all. People have the same question over and over and over....
2007-12-03 09:38:13
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answered by dressage.rider 5
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I agree with you...... Sadly but true! I am thinking the ones who do not agree are either 10yr to 25 yrs or so & have not been in the business long enough to see the real thing. Or just ignorant people who think we can or should save them all!!!! But those are the same people who say I love my mare so I going to breed her to some horse down the street. Sad I wish I could shake some of those people!!!!!!!! & Tell them WTF!!!!!!!!!!
2007-12-03 11:04:05
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answered by ClanSinclair 7
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(*rocks back and forth whimpering*)
I don't wanna I don't wanna, not again, I don't wanna
But yes I agree with you. ;)
EDIT: I wasn't dissing on your question, It's just been hashed out a ton, and try as we might to calmly and rationally teach folks about CHANGE some people insist on having a bug up their bum. The image of a dead horse pops into their mind and from there it is intellectual meltdown rather than problem solving.
2007-12-03 00:19:07
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answered by PH 1 4
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I vomited a little in my mouth now..........
how many times a day will this endure?
Because this is the 3rd time this has been asked today
All the answers are right there in that post, no need to rehash it again.......
STARLIGHT-thanks for the update, that is good news. I would rather the horses not go to mexico and not be destroyed like they are there. I do believe we do it more humanely here, despite what the youtube wonders propoganda tries to concieve.
Thanks for that update I do appreciate it!
2007-12-02 23:40:40
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answered by Mulereiner 7
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