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i found the derivative to be dy/dx = - (2x + 2y)/(2x - 6y)
then i found the slope at that point to be equal to 1, which makes the slope of the normal -1
then i found the normal line to be y = -x + 2

do i set the curve equal to the line?
as in
x^2 + 2xy - 3y^2 = 0
and -y - x + 2 = 0
so
x^2 + 2xy - 3y^2 = -y - x + 2
i did this, then i tried to solve for y. i couldn't. i don't think i'm on the right track though.

so i guess, i'm not sure what to do after i get the normal line

2007-12-02 12:10:06 · 3 answers · asked by salmonella_jr 3 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

is it (2/3,2/9) ???

2007-12-02 12:21:19 · update #1

3 answers

No I don't think you were on the right track.

You can rearrange the equation into two squares as follows:

x^2 + 2xy - 3y^2 = 0

x^2 + 2xy + y^2 = 4y^2

(x + y) ^ 2 = (2y) ^ 2

x + y = +/- 2y

x = y or - 3y

y = x or -x/3

Graphically, the 'curve' is two straight lines passing through the origin.

The point (1,1) lies on one of these lines, the line y = x. The slope of this line = 1. The slope of the normal must be -1. Therefore the normal at (1,1) has the equation

y - 1 = -1 (x - 1) = 1 - x

y = 2 - x

The normal clearly does not intersect the line y = x at any other point. It would however intersect the line y = -x/3. To find this intersection point we would simply solve

y = 2 - x and y = -x/3

-x/3 = 2 - x

-x = 6 - 3x

2x = 6

x = 3

y = -1

i.e. the normal at (1,1) also intersects the curve at (3, -1).

2007-12-02 23:06:33 · answer #1 · answered by chauncy 7 · 0 0

x² + 2xy - 3y² = 0

Take the derivative and evalutate it at the point (1, 1).

2x + 2y + 2x(dy/dx) - 6y(dy/dx) = 0
x + y + x(dy/dx) - 3y(dy/dx) = 0
(x - 3y)(dy/dx) = -x - y
dy/dx = (-x - y)/(x - 3y) = (x + y)/(3y - x)
dy/dx = (1 + 1)/(3*1 - 1) = 2/2 = 1

The slope of the equation of the line normal to the curve at (1,1) is the negative reciprocal or m = -1. The equation of the normal line is:

y - 1 = -(x - 1) = -x + 1
y = -x + 2
_______

Plug the value for y into the equation of the curve and solve for x.

x² + 2xy - 3y² = 0
x² + 2x(-x + 2) - 3(-x + 2)² = 0
x² - 2x² + 4x - 3(x² - 4x + 4) = 0
x² - 2x² + 4x - 3x² + 12x - 12 = 0
-4x² + 16x - 12 = 0
x² - 4x + 3 = 0
(x - 1)(x - 3) = 0
x = 1, 3
______

Plug the value of x into the curve and solve for y. Plug in x = 1.

x² + 2xy - 3y² = 0
1 + 2y - 3y² = 0
3y² - 2y - 1 = 0
(3y + 1)(y - 1) = 0
y = -1/3, 1

Only one of these values is on the normal line. The other solution is extraneous. The only solution is:

y = 1

So one point at the intersection of the curve and the normal line is (1, 1).
_______

Plug the value of x into the curve and solve for y. Plug in x = 3.

x² + 2xy - 3y² = 0
9 + 6y - 3y² = 0
-3 - 2y + y² = 0
y² - 2y - 3 = 0
(y + 1)(y - 3) = 0
y = -1, 3

Only one of these values is on the normal line. The other solution is extraneous. The only solution is:

y = -1

So a second point at the intersection of the curve and the normal line is (3, -1).
_______

The two points of intersection are:
(1, 1) and (3, -1)

2007-12-03 17:59:52 · answer #2 · answered by Northstar 7 · 6 0

The equation x² + y² - 4x + 0y - 9 = 0 i.e., ( x - 2 )² + ( y - 0 )² = 13 = (?13)² represents a circle with C(2,0) and r = ?(13). _____________________________________ Line L : 3x - 2y + ok = 0 intersects the circle in 2 factors. hence, if seg CP is perpendicular to L, then ... CP < r ? | 3(2) - 2(0) + ok | / ?(3²+(-2)²) < ?13 ? | ok + 6 | < 13 ? -13 < (ok+6) < 13 ? -13-6 < (ok+6)-6 < 13-6 ? -19 < ok < 7 ......................... Ans. ______________________________________... ........... satisfied to assist ! ______________________________________...

2016-10-18 21:58:16 · answer #3 · answered by czech 4 · 0 0

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