Evolution or Creation, a Black & White Issue..Or not. Which of the below do you believe and Why?

Question

I know that this seems a question of faith but as Aristotelian of causation was once used to prove the exist of God may here I'll get so interesting answers.

1; Atheistic evolution (naturalistic evolutionism)

2; Deistic evolution

3;Theistic evolution

4:Old-Earth Creationism, The Day/Age Theory:

5:Old-Earth Creationism, The Gap Theory

6:Young-Earth Creationism (Scientific creationism, Creation Science)

7: can't say but I believe in Creationism based on Genesis 1

8: can't say but I believe in Creationism based on Genesis 2

9: none of the above (please explain)

Note:
Progressive Creationism is in fact the same as Theistic evolution in it's essence

And Fiat creationism is just another way of looking at Old-Earth Creationism, The Day/Age Theory.

Intelligent answers only!! please be respectful this is a serious question.

Answer 1

I don't "believe" in evolution. I *accept* the purely natural evolutionary description (model) and explanations (testing the model) as entirely sufficient to account for how life evolved. So, in your rather unflattering list, I'd say that #1 is the most plausible answer. That being said, *acceptance* must be provisional: show me a more convincing explanation and I will accept that. Until a better explanation comes around, I feel compelled to operate with the appreciation that evolution indeed explains and accounts for the phenomenon (and it does so with spectacular success!).

#2 and #3 tend to be "Newtonian clock-maker god" approaches, and give essentially the same result as #1, but try to add a caveat that "something outside nature" got the ball rolling. These are philosophically stop-gap measures on the way to #1.

#4 through #8 are all generally forced readings of Judeo-Christian scripture which fail on various levels, but especially on the interpretation of evidence. As new evidence accumulates (especially since the Copernican revolution), such attempts become more laughable with each decade.

Answer 2

Creationism and evolutionism are compatible. Here's why. First there was no-thing, nothing. The Creator, a supreme being created from nothing, though He was all including Nothing. He planted the seeds, so to speak of creation. These seeds evolved, anthropology proves this. I guess, many of us see, for example, Man, as he presently is, but he might have been a puny organism which evolved to the present man. Someone or something, Perfect as Is, was the catalyst for matter to occur. Once Perfection touches something, that something continues to abide in Perfection. Above that ,this Perfect entity must also sustain His creation. It is too complex for it to function "alone". You did your homework, now take it a step farther and ask, are they compatable and see where this takes you. Good-luck and thank you for being insightful.

Answer 3

My answer is #`1. But if you wish to believe in Creation, do so. But do not labor under the idea that the universe, created out of something, anything, whatever it was (like a "red rubber ball") was itself not created by the Creator. The creator of the universe was unnecessary to the creation of the existence of the material he used. That material was not created.
That material exists because it is the essence of existence, in shape and form, without which we would not have cognoscenti. Without that, there is no consciousness.
So existence must exist; you cannot use syllogistic, propositional logic to say "existence does not exist" without rendering all language useless.
God was unnecessary for something that was necessary, and that necessity is called eternity in both directions, of which no god was necessary because it was required that existence exists.
Tautologies are wonderful tools.

That theories are "yet to propose the source of existence," [see below] is the point of my thesis here: there was no creation, no "source of existence," except the necessity. This is the primary discussion of metaphysics: "Being." No source of existence exists because it would then be the creator of something that is by its definition necessary. A necessity cannot be created: it is the given within its context.

Answer 4

I subscribe to #1, but I can't say I "believe" in it unless I also "believe" in gravity. Belief to me inherently involves some level of faith, which is itself a desire--an emotion--for something to be true. It's not that I _want_ naturalistic evolution to be true (though neither do I have any emotional objections to it), rather that's where all the available evidence points to.

Also, "scientific creationism" is an oxymoron if ever there was one. Creationists are an odd bunch; on the one hand they pooh-pooh science as "just another belief system," but on the other they want to give their religious beliefs a veneer of credibility and rationality by associating them with science.

Answer 5

To be honest, I don't know what most of those are. Not by name anyway. I believe that we are the creators of time. Which has created the reality of this world. As we know it at this point, time is god here. But I believe that time is a tool we created, so its usable. I don't know where we go from here, how things change or stay the same or increase as we leave time behind. I believe that we stalk death in order to understand the tool we created, and until the challenge is met we retain time as god. That's simplistic, but the truth of it is always personal. I can't experience for you, or you for me. So I can't tell you what I see is what you'll see.

Answer 6

The theories that abound to describe and detail the emergence of all matter and energy have yet to propose the source of existence. That being a given, and I with my limited fund of knowledge and experience with which to postulate a plausible theory, is as much proof as I believe necessary to remove any doubt as to the existence of God the creator. That being said, I believe through prayer and utilizing the free will He saw fit to grant me to explore multiple avenues of thought on the subject, the natural order of things providing an explanation for the remainder of all things through evolution is the most necessary component to illicit true faith in our Lord. If the only explanation for all things that we perceive were faith, then it would not be faith at all but proof. Only by providing us with the ability to rationally demonstrate the methods by which things may come to be is there true faith that, despite the likelihood that these truth's are supported by science, the truth lies in God.
God Bless you all in your search for truth.

Answer 7

My personal belief is God created the Heavens and the earth then much later created man. The genisis account is a recreation of earth and light.
Pond scum + time + chance does not equal human life.

Answer 8

OK OK did it ever occur to you that maybe GOD likes evolving creatures. Don't people evolve. We change all through our life, evolve=change.

Answer 9

#7 In the beginning...GOD. It is so written!... Not in the beginning...Apes!!!