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I live in Indianapolis, IN. This week a 3 year old child was brutally abused and murdered by her mother and moms fiancee. She had been taken away from her mother twice already in her short 3 years. She had just been given back to her mother days before her murder.
A hanger was placed in her shirt and she was hung on a door and beaten with a belt until she died, only because she wet her pants.
What has got to be done to stop child abuse in the USA?
Is it the governments place to step in? The state?
Should CPS be held accountable or are they underfunded and understaffed?
Here is the story if you are interested:
http://wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7421451
There are other links posted with new developments also.

What are your opinions. Please only answer if you have given this great thought. Of course we would all like to throw them in jail for life or do more brutal activity to the offenders, but that isnt a realistic goal as of now. Please provide realistic answers.

2007-11-30 15:06:55 · 4 answers · asked by ♥JuicyGirl♥ 3 in Society & Culture Other - Society & Culture

4 answers

You said:

"What are your opinions. Please only answer if you have given this great thought. Of course we would all like to throw them in jail for life or do more brutal activity to the offenders, but that isnt a realistic goal as of now. Please provide realistic answers."

I humbly think you're asking for a bit much of the casual hordes that roam the internet. Too many conflicting things to juggle at once generally means folks just won't answer, sorry.

But I will try. Keep in mind this is my opinion here, and I *am* biased, ok?

I've given this great thought because, well, I had my first suicidal thought when I was ten years old, during my parent's divorce. The reason I was thinking of this....was because a highly *paid* and well trained "professional" Judge, he couldn't figure out for the life of him *which parent* to send me and my sisters to, in terms of custody (and keep in mind, this was a small-town judge, he didn't have the *guts* to declare both parents unfit).

--He knew my father couldn't be trusted. He was a rampaging violent psycho. My sisters and I have *always* remembered the near-daily beatings and verbal abuse and taunts and humiliation. Always. It took us until adulthood to slowly gather our wits to us and remember that he had sexually molested and abused us as well. The scar tissue from that is still thick and still lingers...

--And the judge knew...my mother was really not all there either. She was brain-damaged, disabled from rapid-onset COPD, emphysema, and back injuries, the latter of which came from her being in a car accident when she was 13.

The woman was a drunk, smoked like a chimney, and frankly, she took care of her addictions before paying the rent. She tried to clean up and stay sober after the divorce, but after one year of hassles from my sisters trying to run away from home, she went back.

So yeah, both of my parents were total basket cases, and were unfit to care for a Chia Pet. But the "Judge" couldn't make the call, so he left it up to us kids, to decide this, even though we were young, in denial, and half-crazy. We went with mom--she was the least severe threat to our survival, but then my sisters kept on running away from home because frankly *they BOTH* sucked. And this didn't help matters.

My point? I've been giving this "great thought", practically all of my life. I've given it "great thought" until I am sick of it. And this is my conclusion.

There are no realistic answers, because *expecting* some inbred, half-crazy humanoids to *pull it together* and be good parents is *itself* a criminally unrealistic demand. These "people" are scarcely human, and yet judges are *Ordered* to trust them with the care and upbringing of other human beings.

Seriously. My mother *died* of her precious addictions, her lungs falling apart from the smoking, her skin falling apart from diabetes, because of her alcoholism, which killed her insulin response *after* killing her brain more or less, and leaving her a half-vegetative, bed-ridden dry drunk, perpetually intoxicated from *nothing*.

My father is worse. Last I heard, he's still alive. He's dying of liver failure, because he's underwent chemotherapy and surgeries for three *different* cancer treatments, for cancer of the colon, testicles, and prostrate. Technically he should be a completely frail, impotent old strip of walking teriyaki turkey jerky by now. But....

Somehow, his *brain* produces enough testosterone that he's *still at it*, doing the creepy abusive predator thing, trying to start some trailer-park "petting zoo" to lure in little kids! O_O I'm not making this up, as God is my Witness....if I didn't hate guns on principle, and didn't want to ruin my own life, I would have already *shot him dead* myself over this one. WTF?

See what I mean. Some "people" are just too far gone. They are genetically incapable of conscience. If you allow them to abuse any living thing *once*, be it a child, infant or animal, they will *keep doing it* every chance they get until they are dead. And they'll stay utterly in denial about it all the way to the grave, insisting that other people lie, that *everyone else* lies and that they're the damned victim.

If you wait until these people "grow up" and have children, their sociopathic behavior patterns are already too deeply set. They will never ever be changed.

What needs to happen is this:

--We need to test *every* young man and woman, on entering middle school in the 7th grade, and twice a year after that through high school....they need to be blood tested for testosterone levels, and also screened for tendencies to be both violent, and sadistic, in the sense of being *torturers*. They need to be screened themselves, and attention, *close* attention, needs to be paid to prior family history of this same behavior or tendency. And the minute a screened child or teen shows up a) having uncontrollably high testosterone AND b) a history of *repeated* violence or sadistic/torturous behavior, they need to be sent to a boot camp for a year to be *taught forcibly* that violence and sadistic behavior are *never ever* acceptable for anyone.

And if the screen comes up *twice*, if it ever comes up again after having been to the boot camp *once*, the child or teen gets sent back again, *repeatedly* every year until they turn 21, and they get *mandatory* chemical sterilization for the rest of their lives. Yes, it will likely ruin their own lives, but the pain will *stop* with them and that generation.

--In addition to this....we need to recognize that parenting is NOT a protected human right under the Constitution of the United States, or equivalent documents elsewhere. It is a privilege, and if any one *under* the age of 30, anyone with a history of substance abuse problems *period* regardless of age, and anyone who *stays* both unemployed AND also homeless for a year or more *period* regardless of age, desires to have children, they should NEED to get a Parenting License first. Meaning, in the absence of such a license, any and all children in their care would be assumed *abducted* and not legally in their custody, and not only would the children be removed, but also the Illegal Parent would be charged with a felony, fined and/or possibly sent to prison if found guilty. And it needs to be dealt with on a fairly strict basis, such that people understand, that if they want to have kids, that they NEED to stick to the protocol, get the training and education and *Mandatory Anger Management* classes needed to get the license. It needs to be a difficult process, and a somewhat, moderately costly one, so that the people who *need* to do this, will first look for less expensive options, such as Morning After emergency contraception, condoms, vasectomies, and such if all they want out of a relationship is unrestrained sexual conduct.

Simply put, we need a screening process in place that *forces* the issue of Parental Fitness up front and center, so that people *will* think of this before having kids and having them suffer. People under 30, People with substance abuse problems, or persistent *combined* problems with unemployment AND homelessness really *really* need to reality check here and ask themselves, "Am I fit as a human being to *care for* another human being?" And if they can't answer the question objectively, the law needs a system in place that can swiftly and forcibly answer "NO" for them before these People get to inflict their damage on a new generation.

--And finally. The law needs to steadily and consistently recognize domestic violence against women, and the violent abuse of women, infants and children in particular, as *hate crimes* against women, infants and children. It needs to be made a mandatory felony with *required* prison time, a *required* extended period of electronic house arrest afterwards, and a *required* extended period of both probationary and psychiatric follow-up. After this, the offender needs to be *put on* a *Nationwide* Registry of Abusive Offenders that is consistent and easily available *everywhere*, in *every* Public Library. If the system lets people screw up, we need to absolutely make sure this *does NOT* keep happening over and over again, in other states, to other people under a patchwork of inconsistent and over-lenient laws.

Will any of this happen? No. Part of it is that the methods would be considered too swift, too harsh, and "too unfair" to the offender, never mind that these offenders *never ever* reform and need, really, to be watched and controlled for life. The ACLU would have a field day with this one, and so would the fundies, and on and on....

But part of it is that also....abuse makes the world go around. Simply put....if poor people consistently show up being "damaged people" thanks to being born and raised in abusive families, that gives the rest of society a *really convenient* excuse to isolate and attack and ostracize this Scapegoat class of traumatized people with little money on their hands. And even *if* these "damaged people" somehow pull it together and work for a living....they will be more likely to *take* what passes for managerial conduct in the retail-monopolized workforce, meaning they will be more likely to be *stuck with* abusive authorities for life, just to make a living.

So yeah....it's basically class warfare at its finest, and the sucky part of it is, the solution is about as bad as the problem is. I get this.

Sorry if I wasn't helpful or "realistic". Rehabilitation for severely violent and sadistic abusers, or even severely neglectful and substance addicted ones, just isn't a realistic goal. Control and containing the damage done are realistic goals, since they take into account the extremely *high* likelihood that offenders will just *repeat* their abuse, over and over again, worse and worse, until people die.

Thanks for your time. -_- Email me if you'd like to know more about how I *became* such a bitter, wordy old bastid. ^_^

2007-11-30 16:15:19 · answer #1 · answered by Bradley P 7 · 0 0

It's now not simply the USA, I hate to let you know. But if you happen to reside right here, we probably simply listen approximately the abuse right here within the states. It is sickening regardless of wherein it's.....3yrs historical. Those little eyes of believe and love watching at the ones individuals and so they might damage her in any such manner that simply makes a SANE man or woman, without or with youngsters SPEECHLESS!!!! And Helpless. How anybody might do this I will not ever recognize so long as I breathe. I can not assume what the regulation enforcement, paramedics, Coroners workplace have got to see on a constant foundation, in terms of youngsters. I would not wish that during my head. This is annoying sufficient!! If there's one hundred% evidence past a shadow of a doubt, they must be eliminated from the planet, the abusers. There isn't any sound rationale to overcome/kill a youngster, I do not care what your adolescence used to be like. Only a mentally insane/or no judgment of right and wrong/no soul man or woman might do a factor like that!!! Sickening!!!!

2016-09-05 17:22:37 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

They have exactly the same problem in Australia with Docs, (the department of children's services) knew of these two children . Nothing was done to protect these two children. Sounds very familiar excuse for this little 2yo boy shaken to death and stuffed and dumped in a suitcase in a pond, and little girl starved to death by parents. On one of theses links watch the news story what Docs response was it tells a lot on how these children were protected just as this poor little child beaten to death.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/father-of-lake-angel-to-be-released/2007/10/23/1192941046738.html?s_cid=rss_news
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22711866-953,00.html

2007-11-30 15:57:20 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

That ***** and her boyfriend should be whipped to death.

Everyone failed that kid, from her own parents to the people who took her away. They never should have sent her back.

2007-11-30 15:29:40 · answer #4 · answered by Little Red Hen 2.0 7 · 1 0

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