johan overrated???

Question

I honestly think this guy is overrated. I think from now on he will not be as good as he has been. next year he will be 28 and signing him for more than 4 years would be a mistake. Hopefully yankees dont get him because i dont want to give up young talent for a guy who has 3-4 years of ace stuff left. Lets get realistic by the age of 33 he will not have ace stuff. He's good but his fastball which isnt that fast will definetly drop by the age of 33.
I wish all the bad luck to my favorite team yankees so they don't get this guy.
I'm hoping redsox make a mistake and get him.

he consistently throws 93 mph .
94 mph is throw often but 95mph is not thrown that much.
95-96 mph is his max speed, but its harder to control it when it goes faster so iv seen his games and he usually throws 93-94 mph. do not say he throws 95 mph consistently because that is really untrue.

I rather waste money on piece of **** clemens for one year than sign johan to a six year contract for more than 20mill.

Answer 1

Would you prefer they spend another $28 mil for a 45 year old Roger Clemens. That worked out well, right?

EDIT: If that's the case I guess you'd want him back this year to win 5 more games for $28 mil, right?
Santana will win at average 18 games a year for the next 6 years. Do you realize between 2003 - 2006 he has only lost 4 GAMES after the ALL STAR break!!!
You must be thinking OF Ervin Santana because you would have to be justifiably insane to want a 45 yr. old Roger Clemens for that much for one Year than JOHAN SANTANA for 6 years $20 mil. You're nuts...PERIOD!

Answer 2

Most baseball players have their prime years between the ages of 28 and 32, so Santana is just reaching his prime. I understand your point about not signing him for more than four years, but that's an unrealistic expectation given that teams dole out five and six-year contracts to guys in their late 30s.

Also, the fact that he doesn't rely too much on his fastball now is all the more reason why age shouldn't be as much of a concern as it would be with a hard thrower. His fastball might take a slight dip, but he'll still have a ridiculous changeup and that nasty slider.

I'm a Jays fan and know that my team has no shot of getting him, but he will make a huge difference immediately in that division. Whichever team gets him is getting the best pitcher in baseball, and there's no reason to think he won't continue his effectiveness over the next several seasons.

Answer 3

I disagree 100%. He'll be 29 when the season starts. Dominant pitchers stay in their primes until at least 33.

I don't see his production slipping in the least, especially once he leaves Minnesota and gets to a team that can give him some run support.

By the way, Santana throws 95 consistently, not sure why you're stating he doesn't throw that hard. He also has the best changeup in the game, so even if he drops a few mph, he changes speeds more than well enough to make up for it.

The only thing I agree with you on is, I also hope the Red Sox make a "mistake" and get him.
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Answer 4

this man is absolutely the best pitcher in baseball, and in the PRIME of his career. Most good pitchers dont decline at this age. Hes not an overpowering pitcher, if his fastball does decline it still will be effective because he has a great changeup and two other solid pitches, slider and cutter. But most pitchers dont lose their fastball unless they get injured or untill they hit their late 30's. If a team has the money to make him happy I believe any group of propects would be worth dishing for this guy. It seems to me you may have not seen enough of this guy hes truely remarkable

Answer 5

This guy has been at his prime his whole life, and he's not even 30 yet. Johan Santana is one of the best pitchers who is not overrated. He can throw 20 wins a season, 250 strikeouts a season, and and throw an ERA under 3.50 every season. Now he's on pace to easily hit 300 wins, 3,000+ strikeouts, and a career era of under 3.50. Now this guy is one of the only pitchers who is in the free agent market, who isn't underrated.

Answer 6

He's only overrated when he faces Indians hitters. Versus the rest of MLB he's a phenom...take his record and ERA last year...if it wasn't for his 5 losses vs Cleveland he's have won the Cy Young more then likely.

Answer 7

Yes he is overrated, here's hoping he stays with Minnesota.

He could probably never live up to what Pavano has done for the Yankees.

Since when do the Yankees look 3 to 4 years down the road? It is year by year with them. If something doesn't work just spend more money to fix it.

Answer 8

After reading your comments it's extremely clear that you have no idea about the game of baseball and surely do not know what you're talking about.

At this point I would normally attempt to reason with you but I can see that it would be fruitless. You should really learn all the different aspects of the game before making irrational comments.

Answer 9

I also think that Johan is overrated and that if the Yankees gave up all that young talent for him it would be a mistake. His numbers were better at home than on the road and he pitched in a dome where weather didn't affect him. He also showed signs that he is wearing down this past season. I think that Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain could do more for the Yankees in the coming years than Johan could. Plus the yankees don't need another massive contract.

Answer 10

If by "overrated" you mean that he is without a doubt the best pitcher of this era, then yes I agree...he is "overrated"