Ron Paul versus John McCain on the Vietnam war at the Youtube debate- Who was right?

Question

True, we never lost a major battle. But like today's current war, how do you define a win or loss? Then enemy can never be completed eliminated whether its Islamic fighters or Vietcong fighters.

Then again who benifited most as a result of the Vietnam war and the Gulf wars? Corporations?

Answer 1

Benifited?

Defiantly not the 2 million (2,000,000+) Vietnamese that were slaughtered for U.S. elite interests.

Answer 2

Although Ron Paul wasn't captured, he did serve in the military as well. Some people may not know that he was an Airforce surgeon and Mccain was a pilot. so there's not real bragging rights in terms of military leadership experience for McCain.
I think Ron paul is right, for many reasons, the most important being that this war and the subsequent "battles" that it's creating are not of the conventional sort. The days of "my airforce is bigger than your airforce, so I will win" are over. We must begin to go back to the way we used to be in order to secure a safe country. One with incredible DEFENSE, but little unjustified offence. A country just enough, rich enough, humane enough, not to be targeted and yet stron enough to defend itself like a knife through butter. It's been many decades since we've been loved and revered like that. We weren't any less powerful then, just much more idealistic and it suited us just fine. We lost our democracy when powerful foreign lobbies like AIPAC began to elect our "public servants" and dictate the course of our country. Our politicians end up serving their terms paying back political debts rather than serving to the best interests of the American people.
General after General say that Iran is of no threat to us anytime soon. Top General and Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff General Peter Pace has determined that Iran is NOT even involved in the insurgencies:
Here, take your pick of any source you like (including even Fox News which mentioned it only in passing and more reluctantly than any other source) About this fact:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu.y.ZkRHlxIBXSpXNyoA?p=Iran+involved+doubts+pace&y=Search&fr=ks-ans&ei=UTF-8
If we keep this up with Iran, they'll be forced to just purchase nuclear weapons. We don't need another war monger in office, at least not without a breather in between!

John McCain might have been an examplary soldier, but someone who so casually supports bombing Iran can't be any better than what we've had the last 8 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

Ron Paul is right about this and a few other things because the republican party isn't supposed to run us into the ground like this. We need to think of the consequences of what we do. Our actions today will determine the shape of our democracy and the status of our security tomorrow.

Answer 3

confident. regrettably, the media and McCain supporters would be against it, because of the fact Ron Paul has ripped McCain in shreds in very just about each debate, and a slap in the face with fact, and suggestion from the form.

Answer 4

I will say that for a Vietnam Vet to have undergone torture like McCain did, its admirable that hes alive and well and we thank him for his service.

But for him to run on that like its a tool, really diminishes its value when he tries to cash it in for Political sympathy.

McCain says hes the only one with military experience....well lets not forget he was merely a pilot.
He was never a general.....so that does not qualify him to be commander in chief.

It woul be like saying an infantry man paratrooper should be allowed to run for mayor.

McCains military record has lost all of its credibility to me since he goes around flashing it all the time.
Especially when his forign policy and domestic ideas are well, below par.

He wont win, and I think hes just happy to be in the arguement.

Ron Paul has a better understanding of whats best for america

McCain is theposter boy of why SOME SOLDIERS shouldnt ever be a President

Answer 5

Ron Paul. McCain based everything he said on peoples emotions. Ron Paul based his on facts

Answer 6

All I know is that when John Mccain was captured in vietnam they tortured him, then after a while they decided to let him go and he wouldn't leave with out the rest of his guys.

That says alot about a man. Stand up guy.

I back Mr Mccain.

Answer 7

I don't necessarily agree with Paul, but I thought it was lame of McCain to stoop to argumentum ad Hitlerum. That's just intellectual laziness IMO.

Answer 8

I agree with Paul.

Answer 9

RON PAUL HAS...
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BLIMP.