so now that the youtubers and other cheap @$s's decided to flush geneon down the toilet?

Question

you know the company that brought us, tenchi, hellsing, ergo proxy, black lagoon, all of which will not be continued or made duplicated again.

Which company will the youtubers and other pirates try to take down next.

Viz, the makers of narutard, ranma 1/2 and many other good animes.

or ADV maker ove evangelion and many other animes

who do you think will be next on their hitlist?

Answer 1

rwar! why can't youtuber's follow copyrights?

Is Geneon really losing that much money? I haven't heard anything from that company for ages...

They'll probably take down Viz, because their anime is really popular right now, withe hits like one piece, naruto, and death note...

Answer 2

I'm sick of hearing this kind of complaining. I keep hearing how the US anime industry has been hurting these past 2 years, and how DVD sales have been decrseasing... And how fansubs are getting all the blame.

Well it is true that these past two years sales have gotten lower, and Geneon is no exception. In fact Geneon reported ~6% descrease in sales from 2006 to 2007. Of course that's not a good number. BUT what happens if we go back three years? We see some interesting results... Let's look at Geneon again.

Geneon Sales figures:
2004: 17700 million yen
2007: 27741 million yen

That's (almost) a fricking $100 million increase in sales in 3 years. Thats over a 50% increase in sales... What does that mean? It means that anime fans were spending almost $100 million MORE dollars on Geneon alone in 2007 then they were in 2004. So while its true that Geneon didn't sell as much as it did last year or in 2005, that decrease is dwarfed by the massive increase from 2004 to 2005.

The real problem wasn't fansubs. It was probably had more to do with Geneon OVER EXTENDING itself, and investing in poor selling titles such as Kannazuki no Miko, Kamichu, and Ayakashi. Of course we can't overlook the recent change in the ownership of Geneon. Different owners means different priorities, views, and opinions. Under new ownership, who knows what could have happened.

Also, you blame fansubbers for the loss of production of tenchi, hellsing, ergo proxy, black lagoon, and others. Realize that originally Geneon was just going to drop out of the sales and distribution of anime (while still licensing and producing it), while having ADV prepare the sales and distribution for them. Well, in preparation of this Geneon laid off most of it's sales team. Then the deal with ADV went south, and they broke off the deal. Geneon was left without a sales team and no deal to distribute and advertise. So they said they were stopping sales completely - which makes sense, because they didn't have any means to.

Also, Geneon's president said that they are still looking into ways to distribute old and new titles that have been licensed by Geneon, so we may even see a return of Geneon into the anime industry at one point.

Still, no matter what, I can't put this blame all on fansubbers when fans are actually spending hundreds of millions of dollars more in 2007 then they were in 2004...

Answer 3

I hear you! I hope geneon gets out of being bankrupt and going back to making animes again.
As for who's next- it's going to be ADV they're already almost bankrupt, a few more pushes and they'll be heading that why too.
then it's going to be Viz since everyone loves naruto and they love to download it- which is where the main money for Viz is coming from
then they'll take out the last anime making company I know: Fanaimeion (I can't spell)
some people need to get it out of their head that it's ok because if you keep taking them out there's going to be nobody left, then who's going to make the animes huh?!