is equating monogamy with "sexual repression" and "economic slavery" a way for guys who just want to exploit

Question

women, defend pornography, etc., to make themselves sound like sensitive feminists? Do feminists buy this?

Answer 1

We live in a dark and twisted society.

I personally, as a guy, struggle with pornography...what I mean is that I willingly engage in the viewing of pornography and I willingly have sexually deviant fantasies...but honestly, I know this is WRONG.

Monogamy is Sexual Health as it pertains to marriage between a man and a woman.

I have a monogamous relationship with my wife physically, however the sin nature in me is have mental and visual affairs.

I pray that someday, I will stop and be the complete man and husband that my wife deserves.

Answer 2

This is a great question, Gnu. I believe it's one of those tangents that end up leading original basic ideas off in the wrong direction.

The feminist movement was originally about basic equal rights...to vote, own property, divorce, equal pay, and a few things like that. Once the feminist achived the basic goal, the feminist movement had no-place to go, but other more radical, or weird directions.

What you have stated, "quating monogamy with "sexual repression" and "economic slavery" a way for guys who just want to exploit women, defend pornography, etc.," is one of those tangents that an originally good idea/movement takes and starts becoming radical and weird.

Yes women deserve equal rights...so how does one argue against a guy who states an equal right for a woman would be to have as many sexual partners as she chooses? Well in basic principal, I agree with him...a woman does have the right to choose as many partners as she wishes. On the other hand, I think that BOTH sexes are better off in happy, loving, comitted, monagamous relationships. Rather helps curb the spread of diease.

I've always though actual pornograhpy to be rather dull, and people who dabble too much in it to be rather dull. Don't get me wrong, I love the naked human body. I see great beauty in it, and not just the young and perfectly fit. I'd much rather see tasteful art photos of nake humans than pornography, with it's cheesey music, and story lines.

So any guy that says to me they have a right to pornography, and women have a right to make the movie, well I'm going to agree....however it does not mean I think you have a brain much above plant life. No matter what "you" say to me, I know people are being exploited for pornography. Of course people are exploited in EVERY field of work.

I work in the agriculture sector, less than 1% of Americans work Agriculture. A sheepherder who lives alone out on the range, working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for months on end (two year contract) makes $750-$1250 a month TOPS. That means they are making $1.80 per hour at the very top rate of pay. I dare say a young lady making a porno would laugh at that rate of pay!

I think once movements and organizations achive their main goals they should end, or stick ONLY to the original goals. Once they start on the tangents, they become more and more radical. Look at whats become of PETA...original goals of be kind to animals, were fine and noble, but now they are a bunch of whack jobs, trying to tell people what they can and cannot eat, ect.

My basic responce to any guy spouting such lines off to me would be to arch an eyebrow, and ask, "So have you been able to convince anyone other than yourself, that this is how it should be?"

~Garnet
Homesteading/Farming over 20 years

Answer 3

Every day.

The personality is what counts here.. while its awfully true we live in a world inept to exspress ourselves.. in... most cases monogamy is confused with marrage and all the ancient baggage that goes with it but for the most part monogamy is one mate at a time.

Most people dont look beyond borders they listen to or just assume are there so in the long run.. the matter of fact maybetrue but if its a fox in the henhouse then you need to realise the fault is squarely upon the hens.

Answer 4

If we respect women more than why are they used more and more for their bodies than ever before?

Commercials, porn, stripping etc. The promotion of women’s rights seems to coincide with the exploitation of women. Kind of strange phenomena.

In other culturs women who our society calls repressed are in reality respected. They are not objects or treated as objects; and there are laws preventing them being used as objects. We however call this oppressive.

I guess its just a point of view given my the media and culture.

For example while over seas I picked up what was considered a playboy. All of the local women in the magazine where in bathing suits and they only showed American women nude. That has to come from respect of their women and pride of their citizens.

I like American culture because I like paying $1 for a girl to shack her azz for me.

Answer 5

How does it sound like a feminist argument? It sounds like using 50-cent words to defend a very simple, selfish concept: people should be given a free pass to cheat because they are biologically engineered to do so. And that just isn't true. Because of the presence of the prefrontal lobe in the brain, we have been given the ability to reason and to control our impulses. Therefore, we are biologically engineered to control our desires if we choose. And it IS a choice.
I think feminism and chauvanism are both stupid ideas, personally. To think someone is better because they were born with a penis or because they were born with breasts is silly. Plenty of women are idiots just like plenty of men are.

Answer 6

I think it's hilarious how men have somehow convinced women that to be really "sexually free", they have to have lots of casual, commitment free sex. The woman who feels confused and expects a relationship to follow is seen as unusual or odd - despite the fact that most women feel the same way. I think it's really quite funny that women happily gave up the idea of sex-only-within-a-relationship in order to prove just how much like men they really were. It's funny how a few feminists have spoken out about how "violent" intercourse supposedly is, right after we were all "liberated" into having sex with strangers. All of a sudden, "date rape" is everywhere and feminists are advocating lesbianism to get away from "violent" men who just want women's bodies. These ladies have never had trust-filled, satisfying, liberating sex with a husband, IMO.

It's only funny because they are working under the assumption that women are just like men, that our need for commitment is just a social construct, and then we have all these women chanting, "never again" and "take back the night" after having a bad casual sex experience. But we women are the ones pretending to be happy with commitment-free sex, and feminists are determined to keep the "right" to feel used and degraded - certain that the married women of the past were all sexually repressed and frigid. Poor men- it's not their fault at all, but then they end up in the murky waters of "was it date rape if I regret it? Is he my boyfriend now?"

Answer 7

I didn't think he sounded like a feminist. I thought he sounded like someone who was giving an argument for polygamy.

You were young once too. At least he put together a well thought and supported argument. I've heard worse grunting from men.

lol -No offense Tw

Answer 8

No.

I think you're off the mark there.

You are referring to Twilight's question of an hour ago, but what he was asking regarded 'social constructs' and 'societal norms', and how those constructs and norms benefit Big Business (Corporate America).

It's a great question.

And it has nothing to do with defending pornography...

Answer 9

God created the institution of marriage -- that is, one man for one woman. He instructed His people to not participate in the ways of the world (taking multiple wives, concubines, etc). With sex being reserved for procreation between married couples, the notion of "sexual repression" is obviously a concept of "this world" not God's plan. As for "economic slavery", that is a different concept that is used, I'm sorry to say, by some people that desire to control someone else financially. It has nothing to do with sex.

Answer 10

Well, if a guy wanted to defend porn and exploit women, that would be great 'reverse psychology.' Personally, any guy who doesn't value marriage and making vows in my mind lacks self-respect and lacks respect for his woman and future children. He's more liable to be anti-marriage because he's bitter about alimony, child support etc.