Do you believe what the government has told us all ?

Question

yes 2 million votes were not counted in the 2004 election but nothing amiss happened and there was no fraud
yes over 200,000 GI's were on disability before the 2nd invasion of Iraq - but that had nothing to do with depleted uranium it was likely the chemical warfare that we didn't find in Iraq used against us
yes we thought Osama was responsible for 9/11 and then we found out it was Sadam and then that was wrong too but we needed to take out Sadam anyway so really that doesn't matter either -
yes we are against torture but waterboarding just makes people believe they are going to die it isn't torture - so shut up we are protecting your butt
yes we abducted people from their homeland but we had too courts and do process of law take too long
yes we passed several bills that allow spying on our own people but don't worry we won't abuse that No not us
And even though we were wrong about Bin Laden and Sadam being responsible for 9/11 we are begining to think maybe it's Iran

19 men most from Saudi Arabia all part of Alquiada under the command of a cave dwelling general who is in constant need of dialisis - attacked the US - armed with planes smashed into the most protected air space on the planet

The entire might of the US military and inteligence comunity has been unable to find said cave dweller until Bush said he is not a priority - so they just gave up ?

Said cave dwelling general is still able to transmit world wide video messages to a terrorist group believed to be responsible for US deaths in Iraq
Still not a priority ?

Hmmm ?

Joe J

I am proud to be a class-less Cdn who has the common sense to see throught the drivel and point out the absolute absurdity that the US has dragged the globe into - and try to get a few of you to use that thing on your shoulders

But wait it gets worse I have voted Liberal since 1988 and I might do it again

Answer 1

(Please read with jack Nicholson's voice in your head)

You want the truth? You can handle the truth.

Oh come with all the thumbs down. It was funny. I swear every time I answer a question in this section someone has to thumbs down even if I'm spot on.

PS bring it on I really don't care just making an observation.

Answer 2

No, the government does not tell us everything. In order for government to function, it DOES need to have some secrets.

However, all YOU are doing is quoting the list of left-wingnut talking points that have been going around since the 2000 election, and the beginning of the war on terror (9/11/01 to present).

You are so lopsidedly leftist that I wonder if you can walk a straight line.

It was the dimms that wanted to prohibit the counting of all absentee ballots of servicemen overseas. The charge of not counting the votes of minorities in Florida was proven to be false.

Abandoned dumps where traces of chemical warfare weapons used to be have been discovered by U. S. troops during the war in Iraq. So you are saying that since they aren't there now, they were never there? Very naive.

Nobody ever said it was Saddam that was responsible for 9/11. It WAS said that Saddam supported and trained terrorists in several training compounds located in Iraq. Sadam was removed for violation of some 19 U. N. resolutions, all of which promised use of force if the resolution was not obeyed.

I would use waterboarding if I thought the person captured had information that would save American lives. Wouldn't you? You would rather see American soldiers die instead of discomforting a terrorist for information? And if you think Abu Graib was torture, you have no idea of what torture really is. How about beheading innocent people on the internet to make demands?

The people brought to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba were people caught bearing arms and fighting against U. S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. More than likely, they were terrorists.

The Patriot Act does not authorize spying on U. S. citizens, or even listening to phone conversations of U. S. citizens. That still requires a court order. What the Patriot Act DOES authorize is the tapping of the conversations of FOREIGN NATIONALS that come from areas of the world that either support or harbor terrorist organizations. If they call people in the U. S., then a warrant is obtained to listen to the calls of the person in the U. S.

And who needs a reason to be tough with Iran? They support and train terrorists. They are developing the capability to build nuclear weapons. This is something you want in the hands of a government that foments terrorism throughout the world? EXTREMELY naive!!!

Answer 3

i believe absolutely nothing!this mess has nothing to do with the clinton regime,but it has everything to do with both elder bush and wbush jr.afterall was'nt jr.the one who said he was going to finish what his father started.you people better believe that he has devastated this country and the only way to go is down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!our government is so corrupt and filthy dirty isn't it time for a real change in the whitehouse? or are you all just going to sit back and watch our country be finiancially devastated by people who actually think they are politically educated enough to pass the fourth grade.sit back and totally look at the picture and decisivley select who you would be proud to represent our *ucked up country?and lets talk about those votes that were not counted in the election 7 years ago.were they excluded in florida because a bush ran that state too?????????????????????maybe bin laden was already dead before bush took office.where is he now?did bush get side tracked because his ego got in the way and decided to go after saddam in retalliation?people wake up.your childrens future is at stake.there is one issue we can all agree on,the next person who gets elected into the whitehouse has one hell of a mess to clean up after george w bush.

Answer 4

Your slant on these events isn't the truth.

I doubt there were 2M legitimate votes that were not counted. Likely there were issues with the ballot or votes. The Democrats held a separate commission to review the voting, and found nothing.

200K on disability? If you mean from the First Gulf war, I doubt it. If you're suggesting that any significant population of the troops were harmed by depleted uranium, that, too, is not likely. Troops are not exposed to depleted uranium much. It is used only in certain weapons systems for armor penetration. It is unrealistic to believe that 200K troops have even had contact with it, let alone got sick from it.

Who ever said Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Bush never claimed this, nor has anybody else in his administration. So, where does this claim of yours come from?

Torture is defined as causing severe physical or mental injury or pain. But specific acts are NOT classified as torture or not torture. Waterboarding is clearly a procedure that induces stress and panic, but is not necessarily considered to meet the definition of torture. Such a discussion on it would require mature, rational and reasoned people, not you.

The abductions were not for criminal prosecution, but to get information. And, as foreign nationals not in America, they have no reasonable expectation of Constitutional due process.

The Patriot Acts and the Military Commissions Act neither allow unlimited or unfettered spying on citizens, nor do they diminish our rights and freedoms.

No, bin Laden is still responsible for 9/11. Nobody has even suggested or intimated otherwise.

You are, in the words of Lt. Gen. Honore, "SoS".

Answer 5

This admin has the most God-awful unbelievably pi$$-poor Public Relations I've ever seen in an office that is as powerful as theirs is-

they couldn't pour the 'water' out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel

they continue to lie, mislead, misallocation billions of US tax dollars for the gain of multinational "buddies" and ramp up the infernal war machine while laughing their way to the bank-

america and whole world is just a dump hole for them to "go' on -

your right-
the whole thing is the darkest yet - not only in American history - but WORLD history -

Dark Days

keep the bright lights on it!'
best,
omni

Answer 6

hey trout, i don't know if this is off subject or on, but a great read. thought i'd share. just posted to a previous question about koolaid i answered. here's the original site: http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html

Answer 7

Bush and the republicans have been lying to us for over 7 years.

I don't plan on believing anything this government says until a New President is elected and every bush appointee is cast out on his hiney.

Answer 8

heh heh..according to the republicans..if we question our government..we aren't being "patriots". We "support terrorists". I wonder how "patrotic" they'll sound when we have a Democrat in the White House!

Answer 9

No I don't believe much and it is to big, out of control and complicated to do much good..

Answer 10

Unfortunately government and truth do not go hand in hand. You know a politician is lying whenever they open their mouths.