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their beauty or their feminine attributes ? What would you say to a woman who feels that this is true ?

2007-11-26 17:19:52 · 14 answers · asked by Vannili 6 in Social Science Gender Studies

Toll shark,my question is serious,please you are making me laugh so hard I almost peed on my pants.

2007-11-26 17:28:47 · update #1

14 answers

The flipside, of course, is that it liberates men from having to look at a buncha ugly women.

Was that too mean? I'm sorry.

I personally think that if the Muslim culture has such a problem with men ogling the women, they shouldn't cover the women, but blindfold the men instead.

OK - did I redeem myself?

2007-11-26 17:22:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 9 2

Interesting question. I've thought about this quite a bit, and asked several Muslim women, but of course everyone has their own view.

On a simplistic level, it's tempting to say 'yes', but I think it's more likely that the opposite is true.

I'm basing this on the evidence of history, that women in western culture once (and not so long ago, at that) routinely covered themselves, except for the face.

Were women regarded according to their beauty or feminine attributes then?

Yes, they were, in fact rather more so than today when women have greater freedoms and more choices, and socially cannot just be labelled 'beauty' or 'not' with no other defining characteristics (e.g., great mechanic, top accountant, lousy professor, silly cop).

It is what women do not how they dress that creates the attitude of society, as a whole and as individuals.

What would I say to a woman who felt this was true? I'm not sure. I'd probably ask her why she felt that way and what sort of evidence she had that this was so, and ask if she'd like to talk about it.

Or maybe I'd just say "OK" and move on. I've learned to pick my battles, in this world!

Cheers :-)

2007-11-26 18:19:34 · answer #2 · answered by thing55000 6 · 1 2

I read ur question, and am a little confused, but am going to make a remark regardless.

My parents come from India, where many women who dont even wear the burqa are not treated equally at par with men. To a woman who feels that it is part of culture and something that they should do, you cant blame them for this thinking, b.c since childhoold this is how they have been raised. While I appreciate the fact that I get sit in a room with many intellecutual women, in other countries the men dont appreciate that simply b/c their ego's are just so big, that they are missing the bright side.

As a general remark on the burqa, it in essence creates every woman as the same object, which is wrong. Every woman is different, with unique strenthgs and weaknesses, and the burqa prohibits them from showing their strenths, weather it be beauty, or intellecutal strenth.

I might have not answered your question, but I am passionate about this subject, b/c I dont see how I as man could ever require that women wear something like the burqa.

2007-11-26 18:02:50 · answer #3 · answered by hsingh86 2 · 7 2

No, it just means it is focused within the home against the wife or wives. It isnt a solution but rather it is limiting a problem. The men should learn to treat Women at least equally, and in my opinion in many regards as superior directly due to those beauty and feminine attributes you mention. So I think the burka is in effect a control mechanism to keep Women from truely empowering themselves.

2007-11-26 18:56:42 · answer #4 · answered by tacs1ave 3 · 1 3

Hey, whose the new guy above? What a great answer!

Anyway... no. It is a means of projecting blame outwards onto the victim, thereby rejecting personal responsibility and accountability for bad behaviors, including but not limited to rape.

It JUSTIFIES bad behaviors by blaming the victim. There are a whole bunch of ego-defense mechanisms working simultaneously - on the individual man or an entire culture.

2007-11-26 18:05:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

it depends on the reason behind assuming the veil or burka. if it is a personal choice, then yes, I would agree with that statement. However, if it is governmentally enforced, then no.

I have a friend who is of Palestinian origin, but lives mostly in the US. She chose to cover because she feels that her attributes are hers to show to whom she chooses. I support her in this and think that her choice shows a great sense of self-worth.

however, i have had discussions with women from Iran about the government enforced dress code and according to them, when the choice is no longer yours, a great deal of the symbolic power is gone. the government requires this because women are blamed for mens reactions to them, so it makes sexual harrasment on the street worse, because it is a constant reminder that women are "temptresses".

it all boils down to choice.

2007-11-26 23:34:29 · answer #6 · answered by bluestareyed 5 · 2 2

because of the fact i come across no longer something 'slutty' with reference to the human physique, nor do i come across a woman's breasts to be something to flow 'ga ga' over (the human physique is a organic and alluring element) i do no longer care how a woman outfits. some women could be 'slutty' in a sack textile and ashes. it extremely is the physique of ideas no longer the garments..and a similar applies to any guy besides. i think of i've got defined this poorly. yet possibly my element will a minimum of are available in the process.

2016-09-30 05:29:51 · answer #7 · answered by Erika 4 · 0 0

I think that a burka suppresses a woman's enjoyment of being a woman. The burka was conceived because of the problem in the minds of men. A lobotomy would fix that.

2007-11-26 17:33:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6 2

The only thing that is going to liberate us from being treated according to our beauty is just this. Being butt naked in the streets. Just like our for sisters marched for our rite to vote, lets take to the streets butt naked. You can not change what is in the mind of another person, but you can free yourself from the burden. I say lets just be free, hiding ourselves is imprisoning our beauty. and we are all beautiful. Why should we be punished for it. I'm not saying throw a Marti Grass. That's probably what got us into this mess. I'm saying enjoy yourself, your a woman you are beautiful, don't beat yourself up over it, but enjoy it. Don't let yourself be just a pretty girl. Like I tell my daughters, you can't just be pretty you have to be smart, and resourceful.
Take care of yourself!!! And enjoy yourself.

2007-11-26 17:53:52 · answer #9 · answered by MessieJessie 2 · 4 2

My thoughts on the burkah or any other covering, such as hijab, is that if she wants to cover herself, and is happy in doing so, then it is liberating to her, because it's her choice.

What would I say to a covered woman?
Same as I've said to some of my Muslimah friends:
"It's not my cup of tea, but if you feel comfortable and free covered, then you go sweetie!"
Who am I to judge what other women do with their bodies?

2007-11-26 18:05:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

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