Do you agree with Pat Buchanan, that the U.S. is committing suicide?

Question

He believes that it won't last as a single nation anymore with everything going on these days. Do you agree and why?

Answer 1

HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?

This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.

I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most ben efits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years"

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. from dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Answer 2

Yes it is. There's no debate here. People who still believe the U.S. is 'the greatest nation in the world' are people who have never experienced another nation and/or people who are not very educated on the world. The European Union is at the head of the global community, with China alongside it. The U.S. is simply a pouting teenager demanding the attention it once had, and this kind of mentality will indeed kill it. The quesiton is only will it take 20 years or 100 years.


Bill, the Roman Empire lasted over 500 years in the West, and another 1000 years after that in the East. That's not 'a couple hundred years.'

Answer 3

Yes! And you know when you agree with Pat that the crazy train has left the rails! He's right because they are selling us down the river for a few quick bucks. If we have a real war on a world wide scale where are we going to get the steel, China!? When you take away the industry, you take away the ability to defend your self. The communists always said that they would destroy us from with in our own system. Seems to be working out well for then. The next big war will be with China, and if we don't change our ways, they will win that war.

edit.. I'm a democrat, lighten up guys! Hillary sucks!
Its the NEOCON's that are selling us out, and they are not real republicans and sure not democrats.

Answer 4

Great question and amazing. Not many have read his book about illegal immigration and what it is doing to the nation and he wote tha one back in 1999, if not mistaken. He may be right we could be committing suicide. Seems Bush is bent on up to 60 million INSTANT Americans. He better be careful with Israel, don't need another Katrina. Take care.

Answer 5

Totally. All democracies eventually implode - look at history.
Roman Empire only lasted couple hundred years.
US has become fat, lazy and dependent.
Politicans are promising anything to get elected and there's not enough money to fund it.
They will have to continue to raise taxes until the working man/woman will not be able to take it anymore. Thats when the rubber band breaks.

Answer 6

Yes. It is so divided and we are losing respect in the world. I'm sorry to say but 20 yrs down the road, we will not be a superpower anymore.

Answer 7

Yes I agree with him. Look at what we are doing with our jobs. Look at how we show no effort to secure our borders. Look at how we deal with Islam. Look at how we want to mimic Europe because we want to meet their approval. Look at how we have given our technologies over to China. Talks about a new North American Union with Mexico and Canada, two countries who really don't give a hoot about us. Changing over our currency to be united and in-line with Canada and Mexico. Selling of our infrastructure to foreign powers. Selling of our real estate markets to Ararbic countires. What else?

Answer 8

No, I disagree. He's a fearmonger.

However, if enough people believe him and act on that belief, his proclamation will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. (But not one that would have occurred without him instigating it.)

And P.S. The reason the US is losing respect in the world is not because we disagree over certain issues. It's because of what the US is *doing* in the rest of the world.

Answer 9

It is dying a slow death, self inflicted yes, because we are to self absorbed and we have forgotten what it means ..WE the people.
The gov. has divided us, and has and continues to use fear.
WE continue to disolve common sense, and tear apart the constitution, and have left God on the bleachers.
WE are nit picking way to much with pc, and we must grab ourselves by the boot straps, and regain control, of our leaders, that work for US! First stop, get out of the war.
Second stop, health care for all! See the move Sicko, and wake up America, and God Bless this nation, while we still have blessings to look for.
If God is not guiding us, its because we kicked him out!
Thank you aclu, and the athiest agenda.
P..s. we must also bring back MORAL ethics, lets not play dumb on that one!

Answer 10

Yes. We are trying to dominate the world, but illegitimately. We will fall, just as Rome did.