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I Don't Know Because If You Look At When Daunte Culpepper And Randy Moss Played Together They Were Good Then When Moss Went To The Raiderz He Was Just Average And When Daunte Went To The Dolphins He Sucked.........Would Harrison Be As Good If He Played For Someone Like Joey Harrington And Would Peyton Be *** Good If He Had Recievers Like Arnaz Battle Or Matt Jones?

2007-11-26 09:44:44 · 19 answers · asked by binky10790 1 in Sports Football (American)

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Both, you need a smart QB who knows when to throw the ball, where to throw it accuratelty, decide if they have to keep it, etc...The WR also makes the QB looking good by making fantastic catches, breaking tackles to get big plays, but they also make a QB look bad when they drop easy catch passes and when they're the reason the ball is INT.

2007-11-26 09:46:38 · answer #1 · answered by M R Durf 5 · 1 1

A good QB will make an average WR look much better. Now that is not saying Culpepper has ever been a good QB, he hasn't. WRs like Moss and TO are the exception, they are both great athletes and will make catches most other WR don't. In your example I think Peyton and the system at Indy would make Arnaz Battle and Matt Jones look better than they really are but then Battle and Jones are not elite WRs.

2007-11-26 10:01:04 · answer #2 · answered by ndmagicman 7 · 0 0

Actually it's a running game and offensive line. It's so easy to take a reciever out of the equation. But if it was between a QB and WR it would be the QB amost plays if not all begin with a Quarterback. Peyton Manning made a solid star out of Brandon Stokely for Godsake!!! Then again Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin have been superstars without a QB...

2007-11-26 13:41:05 · answer #3 · answered by crazysteve72 1 · 0 0

I think a WR makes a QB good. In the reason you just gave about Culpepper and Moss, they were an unstoppable tandem. Now if you look at Culpepper, if he starts then he's lucky. Moss has made Brady LOADS better, seeing as he is on pace to absolutely shatter the single season touchdown record.

Another example is Petyon Manning. With Harrison gone, he has played abysmally. Remember that game with 6 INTs? No way that would have happened if Harrison was in there. When Manning had his MVP year and his record year, he had an insane WR duo of Harrison, Wayne, and Stokely.

There are some QBs that make their WRs better. For instance I think Favre is one of those guys. He has never had a game-changing explosive WR like that of T.O. or Randy Moss, yet he is still very consistant and very good.

2007-11-26 09:49:10 · answer #4 · answered by Pat 3 · 1 2

Both the receiver and qb are dependent on each other, however, neither would be successful if it was not for a very talented offensive line. Without the offensive line, the qb would have no time to get the ball to the receivers. The offensive line determines how successful an offense is, regardless of the skill players. It is why 3 out of the 5 highest paid players in the NFL are offensive linemen.

2007-11-26 19:50:23 · answer #5 · answered by tzuccolotto 1 · 0 0

It's obviously a little of both, and I think it varies for each player. For instance, Randy Moss has made every QB he has played for much much better, and he always accounts for huge percentages of his offense. Take a look at some stats...

In Moss's first 6 years in the league, he had 77 TD's, and he averaged 1396 yards per season.... that's... uhh... pretty good.

98 - An aging Randall Cunningham threw 34 TD's in essentially 13 games. Brad Johnson also threw 7 TD passes. Moss had 17, or 41% of them.

99 - Jeff George and Cunningham (Both ancient by the way) combined for 31 TD's. Moss had 11 TD's (35.5%).

00 - Duante - 33 TD's. Moss - 15 (45.5%)

01 - QB's - 23 TD's. Moss - 10 (43.5%)

02 - Pepper - 18. Moss - 7 (38.9%)

03 - QBs - 32. Moss - 17 (53%!!!!)

04 - Culpepper - 39. Moss - 13 (33%) (Moss didn't play a full season - he averaged over a TD a game tho)

05 - QB's - 21 TD's. Moss - 8 (38%)

06 - QB's - 7 TD's. Moss - 3 (43%) and Moss was injured again!

THIS YEAR
Brady - 39. Moss 16 (41%)


Also, take a look at some of Moss's qb's numbers without him compared to with him.

Cunningham - in seasons where he started 12 or more games, without Moss, he averaged 22.17 TD's a year. With him he had 34..... and that was in 13.5 games.

Culpepper - averaged 28.75 TD's a season with Moss... without Moss.... he hasn't even been able to hang on to a starting job. In fact, he has only thrown 13 TD's since Moss left him... That was over the course of about 16 full games.

Jeff George - Without Moss averaged 18.3 TD's a season when he started 12 or more games. With moss, he put up 23 TD's.... in 11.5 games.

Now we have Brady, who is on pace for some ridiculous number TD's.... prior to having Moss, his CAREER high was 28, with an average of 24.5 TD's a season. I believe he reached bettered his career mark halfway through the season this year....

So does Moss make his QB that much better? I think it is quite obvious he does, however, it also is quite obvious that he benefits when he has a decent QB at the helm, and this season has been off the charts because he has one of the best in the game with Tom Brady.

So would harrison be as good with Joey Harrington? Of course not. Harrison never even had a 1000 yard season prior to Peyton's arrival, and obviously the development and ability of one feeds the other. I think Harrison would have been a very good to average WR if he did not have Peyton. Think along of the lines of a guy like Hines Ward - always solid, great team guy, but never really the "elite" WR.

Would Peyton have been good with Battle or Jones? Well he came onto a pretty terrible Colts team, and he turned them around in a couple years. Harrison was slowed by injuries during Manning's rookie year, but still was only putting up 65 yards a game when he was healthy. While Harrison was out Manning had to throw to Torrance Small and Jerome Pathon... both of which were about as good as you'd think... awful. Manning still played well without Marvin, and even had some of his better rookie games in the end of the season. He also did not have a defense to bail him out.

So would Peyton have been as good without Harrison? Yes, he would have, but he would have developed a different role - he wouldn't be trying to make as many plays, and he would probably not have as great of stats, but I do think he would still be considered one of the best in the league.

2007-11-26 10:14:14 · answer #6 · answered by Jim Baw 6 · 1 0

Both have to be on the same page. Your examples of Moss and Culpepper is the perfect example. Same could be asked in baseball, is it the pitcher throwing the strikes, or the catcher calling a great game? Look at the RB position and their offensive lines... if Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith traded places, and Barry had that monster O-line, while Smith had to get everything on his own like Barry did, who would be the all time rushing leader by far? It's all relative, QB's and WR's both have to carry their own weight.

2007-11-26 09:58:16 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Both a quarterback and a wide receiver have to earn every completion. The completion stat goes to the quarterback, but if not for the wide receiver, he wouldn't receive the completion. The reception stat goes to the wide receiver, but if not for the quarterback, he wouldn't receive the reception. Both players have to work together to win a game, you can't have a bad player at one position and expect there to be a completed pass reception. A bad quarterback wouldn't be able to pass the ball to the wide receiver (i.e. get intercepted, knocked down, not thrown far enough) and a bad wide receiver wouldn't be able to catch the ball.

And to answer your second question, Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning are both players that depend on stars to help them get great stats. Without a great quarterback, Harrison is nothing and with bad weapons, Peyton Manning is nothing.

2007-11-26 09:59:23 · answer #8 · answered by King © 3 · 0 0

Thats always been asked-Would Montana or Young been as good without Rice.They go hand in hand.People never realized how good a QB Archie Manning was because he never had a good WR and very rarely do people talk about Steve Largent because he didn't have the big name QBs(ie.Zorn and Dave Krieg).

2007-11-26 09:47:51 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

A little bit of both.

Randy Moss was mentioned above.

Now look at Art Monk, somebody who should be a Hall of Famer. Always had average QBs throwing to him and he made them look great.

2007-11-26 10:48:34 · answer #10 · answered by M. Diego 7 · 0 0

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