Why is the UK media pro-Palestinian muslim & anti-Israeli (Jewish & Christian), in complete denial of history?

Question

Nowadays, we don't say "Oh, poor Germans, they lost the war, poor poor dears, let's give them French, Polish and Balkan land".

However, in effect, the above is the propaganda being touted by the UK press when it comes to Palestinians (muslims).

The real fact is, after the formation of Israel by UN resolution, the Palestanis were legally entitled to sell their properties to the Israelis. However, most of them chose not to, and encouraged by Egypt, Syria and Jordan, they left their homes and went to "temporary" refugee camps in Syria and Jordan in preparation for joining forces with Egypt, Syria and Jordan, along with troops from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Algeria, in a vain attempt to remove Israel from the map in what is now known as the 1967 Six-Day War.

After losing the Six-Day War, Egypt sensibly signed a peace treaty with Israel. However, to this day Lebanon and Syria refuse to give citizenship to the Palestanis - that's right, not even the Lebanese and Syrians want them!

The Palestanians have far more right to live in Jordan and Syria, since they left Israel of their own choice. Jordan and Syria should fulfil their obligation and give citizenship and homes to the Palestanis, however they find it far more convenient to sustain the status quo, as the refugee camps are excellent recruiting grounds for islamic terrorists, who are brainwashed into suicide-bombing Israel.

Immediately after Israel's 1967 victory, Jews living in the Arab world faced persecution and expulsion. According to historian Michael B. Oren, mobs attacked Jewish neighborhoods in Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon, Tunisia, and Morocco, burning synagogues and assaulting residents. A pogrom in Tripoli, Libya, left 18 Jews dead and 25 injured; the survivors were herded into detention centers. Of Egypt's 4,000 Jews, 800 were arrested, including the chief rabbis of both Cairo and Alexandria, and their property sequestered by the government.

The ancient communities of Damascus and Baghdad were placed under house arrest, their leaders imprisoned and fined. A total of 7,000 Jews were expelled, many with merely a satchel.

Yet, you don't hear Jews saying "Oh, woe is us! We were expelled from our land in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Morocco, Yemen and Tunisia without a penny. Give us back our land!"

Any muslim-sympathisers should get their history straight before attacking honest Christians and Jews.

Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

kokopelli> I would love Israelis & Palestinians to live in peace & I can't confirm or deny the Israeli atrocities you mention. However, at every opportunity the Pales have rejected peace.

The compulsory land purchase was sanctioned by the British, and the Palestinians had every opportunity to avail themselves of this before the inception of the State of Israel. If you wish to blame anyone, then blame the British, who promised the land to the Palestinians in return for help during the WW2 Middle East conflict, knowing full well that the land was not theirs to give!

And yes, I am aware of the King David Hotel bombing. I'm not saying the founding Israelis were perfect.

However, the Palestinians have given up all right to peaceful existence by electing the terrorist organisation Hamas to government. Hamas refuses to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist, even within the territorial limits set out in the original UN resolution & supports and recruits for suicide bombings in Israel.

Some answers have had the attitude "Why bother?"

See Martin Niemöller's poem "First they came..." at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

We need to examine history to explain where we are today and how not to repeat the same mistakes.

The 1972 Munich massacre of the Israeli olympic team by Palestinian terrorists was the
catalyst that lead to the current Israeli policy of assassinating known terrorists. The attitude, whether right or wrong, is that any civilian casualties only have themselves to blame as they are either actively supporting the terrorists or passively allowing the terrorists to remain in their midst.

It does seem that the security wall is seen by many as a symbol of oppression, however by monitoring every person who goes out and comes in, Israel has virtually halted any suicide attacks from that area, and who would deny Israel the right to defend itself from terrorist attack?

For more information on the current Israel/Palestine situation, I urge you to read this blog before you post something negative:
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-they-came-for-jews.html

Calling me a Zionist is nothing worse than Ken Livingstone calling Oliver Finegold a concentration camp guard, and is all I would expect from a trendy lefty.

I don't agree with all of Israel's policies, but Israeli troops didn't force Hamas and Fatah to throw people off the roofs of buildings and slaughter rivals in front of their wives and children.

Quoted from http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-they-came-for-jews.html

"When Israel withdrew from Gaza in April 2005, it gave the Palestinians the opportunity to govern themselves. Did they take advantage of it? No. Instead, they immediately set up rocket-launching sites in northern Gaza to attack the Israelis in Sderot, and started killing each other in gangster-like power plays. The PA proved itself completely impotent once given a taste of sovereignty, and instead the radical Islamists have taken over Gaza in that power vacuum."

Answer 1

The English have produced some righteous philo-Semites,
but on the whole, they are an anti-Semitic culture. Today, as in times past, anti-Semitism is "trendy" throughout the UK.

The British media feeds their people daily doses of anti-Semitic propaganda that furthers the cause of demonizing and ultimaly destroying Israel.

Furthermore, the English have a centuries long romance going with the Arabs.

Answer 2

Your knowledge of the history of the Arab-Israeli situation is sadly biased and misinformed. Just after the creation of Israel, in the one-year period of 1948-1949, the Israeli Zionists deliberately destroyed 535 Arab villages and towns, and either killing the inhabitants or driving them off their land. The abandoned villages were then either totally leveled so not a stone was left standing or taken over for jewish use. The former inhabitants who were forced to flee became homeless refugees, and this was the beginning of the Palestinian refugee camps. While it IS true that in the very beginning, even before Israel was officially a state, some jews did buy land from the native Arab population, this practice was soon left by the wayside as armed takeover of Arab towns became part of a systematic plan of genocide. In no way did the Palestinains "voluntarily" leave their homes; this is part of Israeli revisionist propaganda which has worked to erase from consciousness the atrocities committed by the jews against the Palestinians.

These atrocities, by the way, are the root cause of the Middle East crisis as we know it today.

You are obviously only aware of the jewish version of history, which has warped and distorted events and turned things completely around and has created a totally false account of the early history of Israel.

I bet you have never heard of Theodor Herzl, whose vision it was that Arabs and Jews could live together in peace for their mutual beneift, a vision that was trashed by the Irgun long ago. You also have to get your information from the historical record, not some biased blog or revisionist version. Most who are blind to Israeli atrocities simply don't want to know about them because this does not support their biased opinion.

The Brisitish do deserve a great deal of blame for the conflict between Arabs and Israelis because it was the British who instigated the who process by issuing the Balfour Declaration. Prior to that the British had considered other places as a jewish homeland, including Africa and Argentina; the ultimate goal was to get them out of Britain, where the influx of poor jews from Eastern Europe was responsible for rising unemployment among British citizens.

Answer 3

There is a large Muslim anti-Israel lobby in the United Kingdom from recent immigration to the Unite Kingdom mainly from its former colonies like Pakistan

Answer 4

David Cole a JEWISH historian tells the truth about Jewish 'history'. Read it

Answer 5

The UK media is pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli? do you think that if you say that enough times it will be true? Maybe you are so partisan that anything in the middle seems a million miles away.

Now let's see. The UK's biggest selling newspaper is...The Sun! Which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who is pro-Israeli (but he is NOT Jewish, as someone claimed earlier, his family is Ulster protestant). The biggest selling broadsheet is The Telegraph, which is pro-Israeli. The Telegraph is followed by The Times, which is owned by Murdoch and is pro-Israeli. The (Hate) Mail is also pro-Israeli, and will for as long as Islamaphobia is more common than antisemitism. Only a few newspapers (The Grauniad etc.) are pro-Palestinian.

Now for TV. Pro-Israelis claim that the BBC has a pro-Palestinian bias. Pro-Palestinians claim that it has a pro-Israeli bias. We can say with confidence that is is more sympathetic to the Palestinians than most of the British media. The other behemoth of British TV is Sky News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch and is pro-Israeli.

So there you have it. On balance the biggest UK media outlets are not pro-Palestinian and contain a mix of views. If anything they lean more towards Israel. And according to the UN resolution, the Palestinians were also entitled to have their own country. But it is only history denial when other people do it, isn't it?

Answer 6

This is the exact kind of hysteria that the Israeli media produces when presented with any form of criticism of Israeli policies in the Occupied Territories. The western media is terrified of being labelled anti Semitic, which makes your entire claim utter nonsense. The Israeli military is one of the world's best equipped and trained, and they use Palestinians (and often aid workers too) as target practice. How can you justify the Chatila and Sabra refugee camp massacres in 1982 in Lebanon? The Jenin camp massacre in 2002? Where Israeli F16's fired over 1500 missiles into the camp in a one week period, killing 54 people? Are you telling me that the Palestinian reaction, where the few crudely armed defenders they had killed 23 Israeli soldiers was a "terrorist crime" but the Israeli attack by F16's was part of the "war on terror"? Perhaps you're going to tell me that Israeli soldiers did NOT kill 408 children between 2000-2003, at the start of the second intifada? Or deny that in the first intifada, suicide attacks were virtually unknown? Oh, and maybe you can explain why the UN has repeatedly been foiled in its attempts to send fact finding teams to Palestine by the USA, at Israel's request? Is this rampant anti Semitism too? Perhaps you're going to tell me that Israel is NOT in violition of Article 49 of the Geneva Convention-an act of the most bitter irony, when you consider that Article 49 was drawn up specifically to address the Nazi occupation of Eastern European states. The UN council voted against Israel by 115 votes to 2-let me guess, the whole world is anti Semitic!?

You are a Zionist, and the bile you are spilling here does your fellow Jews and holocaust victims a grave disservice. Read proper history books before you come on here with your Zionist propaganda, then you won't look like the hate filled cretin you do now

addendum; Ok, now you really are making yourself look like even more of a clown-quoting from blogs as if they were fact?! Jesus Christ. For feck's sake READ A HISTORY BOOK. Then you might actually find out the truth about the Israeli "disengagement" in 2005. The whole charade of an Israeli withdrawal was drawn up by Sharon's closest adviser, Dov Weinglass, to draw attention away from the (illegal) wall being constructed across the West Bank. The actual disengagement consisted of 8500 "settlers" being removed, after being given plenty of notice, compensation in advance, and then rehomed in government built new homes in Israel. However, during early 2004, around 13500 Palestinians were forcibly removed from their homes, which were then demolished on the spot by bulldozers. The soldiers evicting the Palestinians used loudhailers and warned that any people who attempted to stay would be shot or have their home demolished with them still inside (a favourite Israeli army trick). Then in the usual Sharon sleight of hand, around 13000 settlers were moved into the West Bank-5500 more than had been removed from Gaza. Add to this, the new security fence around the Gaza Strip, a state of the art monstrosity with remote control machine guns and ptical sensors, then tell me that Palestinians are free in Gaza and the West Bank.
None of what I have written is dross from wikipedia or other such unbiased sources, but actual VERIFIABLE FACT. Nor am I a liberal, but I do not accept this mentality of refusing to criticise Israel for war crimes for fear of being labelled anti Semitic. I have no quarrel with Jewish people or Muslims or anyone else for that matter, but detestable,easily led little hate mongers such as yourself make me sick

Answer 7

Well I know they have a large muslim population in the uk. Media generally tries to reach out to their largest demographic. Its really about money when you get down to it.

As for the problems in the middle east, these things have been brewing long before our time. These people have been fighting as long as they have existed. I don't think that much built up resentment and anger is going to go away with any quick treaties. Pretty much everybody in that area wants Israel gone. Do you think that common sense and reasoning is going to really stop thousands of years of propaganda and lies?

Answer 8

see kamrans answer to educate yourself , ariel sharon took rupert murdoch on a tour of the Golan heights (stolen from the syrians) in a helicopter...who are these people, well arial sharon is jewish war criminal and rupert murdoch is his jewish best mate...and he owns all the media output of Australia , he has editorial rights over what you read in the Sun and News of the World, he owns the Times, New york newspapers Sky TV in the west and Star TV in the far east

Answer 9

Germans, who's bothered
Jews, who's bothered
Palestine, who's bothered
Muslims, who's bothered
Israel, who's bothered
etc... etc... etc...

As you say, it's History. It's gone "WHO'S BOTHERED". Can't do anything about it, let's move on shall we.

Answer 10

i agree with you

the poor palestinians - the wicked israelis

the palestinian and their supporters are selective about the bits of history they 'believe'

they cherry pick the bits that put them in the right and the jews in the wrong

the palestinians are encouraged in their claims of ill-treatment by other biased jew-hating arab countries

the muslims stick together when against another ethnic or religious group, but fall out with each other when they have no one else to fall out with..............

the bias on our tv needs to stop - but they seem to be worried about offending muslims in UK ...............they need to be honest, and stop pandering to these whingeing bullies