Women has to flee this country because she had metal health?

Question

problems when she was a teenager. Although she is perfectly well now, Social Services are going to take her unborn child Molly away from her. The poor woman said she would work with social services but they are having none of it. Is this fair?

EDIT: Sorry about the spelling error, obviously i meant to say mental health. The lady in question has never had any children before. She had the problems as a teenager, but because social services were involved with her then, they won't let her keep her baby. Adoption quota's come to mind.

Edit: Proudwalker, thankyou for the petition site, I have just signed it.

Edit to noah comes1/20/08: What do you mean this has nothing to do with pregnancy, SHE'S PREGNANT!!!!!!!!

Answer 1

It is awful, and to do with pregnancy because she is pregnant.

The area where she lived has a very high rate of taking children from their parents at birth. Much higher than elsewhere in the country. She has an MP helping her, and the last I heard was that she was moving to his area to receive more support. Find out more here.

http://www.stopinjusticenow.co.uk/

Texasmum She hasn't done anything at all, she doesn't have any children yet.

Also her 'mental illness' was the result of a serious sexual assault when she was 16. She really doesn't need to be punished any more.

There is a petition if you wish to support her.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/3/we-the-undersigned-completely-disagree-with-the-intention-to-take-fran-lyons-newborn-baby-away

Answer 2

Most social services department have a goal of keeping children with the parents (at least in the states, don't know where she is located). If she is in the states, she may be able to find some resources at www.nami.org.

Mental health issues cover a wide variety of conditions. Was she temporarily depressed, or does she have a condition that would make it hard for her to care for her baby. Is she currently involved with drugs, alcohol or risky behavior? Has she been in trouble with the law? Does she have a lifelong condition and if so, is she following a regular course of treatment to control it? Many illnesses have periods of relapse and remittance, when the patient does not admit to having problems. Does she have an adequate backup system in place with people to help support her emotionally and physically if needed?

If she can answer these questions in a way that shows she is able to care for her baby, she should be able to keep it.

Answer 3

Despite what people may think, social workers are not in the business of breaking up families, ask any foster carer and they will confirm this.
They will normally work with parents to see if there is any chance of bringing a family back together (example being - a supervised mother and baby unit) and will give the parents a lot of help to turn their lives around.
This woman must have had a history of causing harm to herself or others for her baby to be taken away from her.
I find it extremely hard to believe that social workers are refusing to work with this woman (i have known cases where social workers have worked with families for years to resolve their original problems).

I am one of the few people who have a lot of faith in the social services system of this country, as i have seen first hand how they can reunite families and look after the best interests of the children.

If they (DSS) think that what they are doing will give the child a good standard of life then i am completely behind them, and i sincerely doubt this woman is telling you the whole truth about why social services want to take away her baby.

Answer 4

No. Some people in this world get treated dreadfully, even in 'developed' countries. Mental Illness does not make someone incapable, dangerous or crazy. It just means they aren't always as in control of their thoughts as most healthy people. They can still be perfectly good people, intelligent and capable. But they are no doubt scared of what's going on in their head, and the trauma of having a child taken away is just awful. They need love and support, not this- this is like punishment. They have done nothing wrong, except get sick.

Answer 5

There has to be more to it than that!
They can't take her baby, just because she had mental health issues when she was younger. IS she a danger to herself or others? Is she capable of looking after a child? They would of given her a specific reason why they are going to take her child. She needs to fight this tooth and nail before the baby is born. Social services need to provide proof that she is not a fit mother. Tell your friend she NEEDS to get this sorted before Molly is born. Go to a solicitor, Citizens advice bureau. Have a meeting with social services, they need to proof she is unfit, what do they have on her. Why do they think she is incapable of looking after her own child.
Why are they in her life now? Who invited them into her life now?
Sorry but your question brought up more questions than I can think answers.
I hate social services, they are interfering bas****s, and break up families that don't need to be broken up and keep families together who need to be broken up.
Social workers I have met in the past, who are involved in peoples lives who I know, are all self righteous gits.

Answer 6

Are you talking about fran lyon?
Her psychatrist has said that there is no evidence to suggest that she may cause emotional abuse to her child.

I think this is a great mistake by social services, the girl should be given the chance to live here in the uk with her child and to be a mum.

I hope all goes well for her.

Answer 7

That doesnt surprise me one bit. My friend had fostered two little children(brother and sister) and decided she wanted to adopt them.She had to remortgage her house to pay for all the court hearings etc because social services thought that members of their family would be better looking after them, even though when they went to stay with these family members they were ignored most of the time and kept asking when they were going back home. This went on for ages until finally the judge decided that my friend was the best one to bring them up and she finally got to adopt them in March this year. The worry and uncertainty for the children and my friend and her husband was appalling.Social Services just dont know what they are doing half the time.
They thought that the children would be better off with these family members just because they were family,they didnt think about what kind of life they would have.

Answer 8

I assume you are talking about Fran Lyon, you have asked a question and gave absolutely no details about the case what so ever so people aren't giving a fair comment, they are basing it on what you have told them which is nothing, if you want to know about Fran Lyon and what is happening to her click on the link below

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2007/09/20/105839/fran-lyon-case-the-hidden-agendas.html

Answer 9

Is this the thing on 'Tonight with Trevor McDoughnut' tonight at 8pm?

I think during pregnancy we all suffer a bit from 'mental health'...

Answer 10

Depends on what she did to her first children. Not enough info. She must have done something for them to want ot take her children away. Ive met some pretty horrid parents and social services still think they are the parents for the children so she had to have done something. maybe she's not telllingyou the whole story.