Trapped in terminology ? Any answer ?

Question

... if i met a view that God is Nothing and Everything, is that so important where i got it ? Haven't you met this opinion before ? Is that so difficult to admit that everything is possible if everythingis possible for Him ? Is not this the true humble and tolerance ? Zen buddhists swear that word is nothing unless you have the experience - is not more important to EXPERIENCE and spread God e.g. to laugh/love ? If buddhist find so many experiencies in emptiness is not it interesting as well ? Can you measure beauty ? Can you measure Love ? Isn't it Nothing in material world Everything in the spiritual one ? Is not Spirit the highest form of the matter ? And again - is that so important where i met this view ?

Answer 1

No Glow it does not matter in the least. God does not care either. Be careful with that limiting terminology though, it is sneaky.

If we think of God as him we have already limited God so that She can not be everything.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 2

Like Don said, don't get caught up in the semantics of the thought. Getting more involved in the words rather than what the insight mean to you will distract you from the wisdom of the thought, as dlin pointed out.

However I do disagree about their thoughts that it is not important where or how you came to these realizations.
It is very important. Examining how your mental process is at work can also give you insight as to what can facilitate the midset under which you are operating, and if you can make adjustments to refine your thinking. The process itself can lead to more and greater awareness. That is precisely why the Zen Buddhists practice the 'emptiness' process.

Answer 3

I have to disagree with many of the answers above.

Where or how you achieved your understanding is irrelevant but semantics, terminology and meaning are vitally important to discourse. Personification of our responsive field of reality as 'deity' continues to be the blocking point for enlightening exchanges and substituting 'god is nothing and everything' - although true - is not terribly helpful in reaching the ignorant.

Mutual tolerance is also NOT the solution. Humans will not stop projecting (unconsciously) their defects on to others until they stop projecting their attributes onto deity.

Beauty and love may be abstract but they ARE individually measurable and conceptualizable - however unique each person's aesthetic sense and purpose may be. And not all of us are here to be 'free-floaters' in the spiritual sense, i.e. laughing and loving our way through life. For someone born to purpose, spirit is NOT the highest form of matter, rather conscious awareness and creation is.

Buddhism has more depth and power than you have yet discovered. But, stick with it. You are definitely right about one thing, 'emptying' of the conditioned identity is the key.

Answer 4

Buddha stands apart from the ambiguous -ists and -ism just as Christ does from -ians and -ianity. Rather than terminology, the individual's quest may be arrested by the ambiguity of the group project: convention. Such individuals who quest, those who overcome convention, are RADICAL individuals who are enabled as such to face the ultimate things. As opposed to the mask-to-mask that convention demands, one who quests requires the FACE-TO-FACE confrontation. I suggest that you may be trapped by your own preference for AMBIGUITY. And yes, it is of great import where the face-to-face meeting occurs because one's origin is in the tradition that the radical individual is obliged to emerge from, to stand out, to stand apart, to illuminate. For a westerner the meeting is in the West. If you think you can swim in the sky, then, by all means, seek the meeting in the East.

Answer 5

no, its not important where you met a view, as long as you think upon it , and decide for yourself if it feels right,
most things are not black or white, right or wrong, there can be many equally correct perceptions of the same thing,
our words are our symbols to define our world, a word will not always have the same meaning to everyone, find your words to describe your feelings, then sometimes alter them to relate to the person you are speaking to, so a mutual understanding can perhaps be found

Answer 6

Well in the Bible God says,

Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

So the Word of God is the initialization of action. As humans we usually do not experience something before it comes, nor after it passes. We experience in the present. That makes it seem like only experience is of substance, because that is the only time it is tangible in the physical.

However, in the Christian circle, before we experience, we have faith, in God and after the experience we have the Holy Spirit reminding us of God's word. Jesus Christ is like the Word impacting upon us, he is our present, our experience.