I have recently bought a miniature horse, but he has such an odd coloring, im not sure what to call it! My sister thinks that he's a grulla, but im not sure.
Here's his picture:
http://i14.tinypic.com/7y6rewi.jpg
2007-11-24 05:53:44 · 33 answers · asked by elephant_girl23 1 in Pets ➔ Horses
I bought Toby from an old lady who had too many miniatures, So I dont think hes registered, I personally think that he's a cream.
But his full blooded sister was a palomino, and his dam was a liver bay and his sire was a cremello.
2007-11-24 07:56:05 · update #1
Here are more pictures of Him:
http://i8.tinypic.com/6xj14z4.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/8eld4k4.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/8anz8y1.jpg
2007-11-24 08:01:39 · update #2
Here's a better shot of Toby's dorsal stripe to help define his coloration:
He is in the middle of shedding his winter coat in this picture, but his top half is completely shed. Only his belly isn't shed out all the way.
http://i18.tinypic.com/6skj4o8.jpg
2007-11-25 09:11:33 · update #3
My best guess without knowing what color his parents are would be a silver buckskin, like the filly here: http://www.mcguirefarms.com/Resources/sylvan1.jpeg
It's also possible he's a faded out buckskin or even a 'dunskin', which is a horse who is buckskin with the addition of a dun gene. If you know what color his parents are, it might help to figure things out.
2007-11-24 06:13:29 · answer #1 · answered by RabbitMage 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
He is a light dun and appears to have a single cream dilution gene which has caused the black to sunbleach and the body to appear even lighter than a normal dun.
That he is a dun is clear from the line on the back. Thus it is the dun not the agouti that is causing the darker points. The Fading seen in the mane and tail is typical of smoky blacks (I have had two). Thus he is NOT a buckskin. Sorry folks. Dun and buckskin look similar but are caused by different genetics.
BTW Smoky blacks are black horses with a single cream dilution gene. They appear black in the spring and fall but most typically sun bleach to appear almost like a bay by the time they are about ready to shed. Then they will shed back to their black color and begin sun bleaching again.
Addition
His sire carried the dun gene on a chestnut base coat with two creme genes. He is heterozygous for dun. Technically I am not sure you would call that a cremello.
Am I the only one to spot the top line (that is not countershading, it is a line marking the animal as dun NOT buckskin) Folks LOOK ON THE FIRST PICTURE AND THE DORSAL STRIPE (LINE) IS CLEAR. DUN!!! I do believe a grulla is a dun on black and he may be grullo. but in his winter coat it is hard to tell. Grullos have specifically a smoky or blue appearance. I can not tell from the pictures that he has that.
Seeing the extra picture. He appears to be a grullo with a cream dilution. This would be a very rare color. Grullos are one of the rarest colors and the rarest of the duns. Add to that a single cream dilution and you would have a very rare color indeed!
He is definitely not strawberry roan or red dun. He is a grullo or a very light dun. No other possibilities there! In actual real life does he have any tan shading? If so light dun. If he is simply that mousy bluish gray then grullo with cream dilution on top.
2007-11-24 09:56:29 · answer #2 · answered by Jeff Sadler 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The creme gene from the cremello father can only produce buckskin or palomino when bred to a bay horse. Your mini is obviously not a palomino, so just by deductive reasoning its a BUCKSKIN...
He in no way looks roan, gray, or grulla, and a dun and grulla both have to have a dorsal stripe, and are created from a different gene than what a cremello has. You've got yourself a buckskin....creame body, black mane and tail (sometimes they get "frosting" in it to make it grayish or silver in spots) and black points on the legs, ears, etc.
2007-11-24 10:30:52 · answer #3 · answered by Katie A 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The closest color I would match him too is a light grulla. Because he appears to have a dorsal stripe. The first pics are too light to tell, but in the last few pics you can see more of his dark coloring. If I was judging him just by the first pic though I would have said a buttermilk buckskin.
2007-11-25 02:39:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I couldn't tell a lot by the picture. If he is tan/gold body with black legs, mane and tail he is a buckskin. If his color is what I just mentioned with a dorsal stripe then he is a dun. If his body color is grey with the dark or black points and dorsal stripe then he is a grulla. He is a cutie regardless of what color he is.
2007-11-24 11:02:49 · answer #5 · answered by BAT 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
1. He is not a buckskin because buclskins do not have dorsal stripes. If you have a "buckskin" with a dorsal stripe it is a dun with points.
2. His colorong suggests either roan or strawberry dun.
3.My best guess would be that your horses color is strawberry dun with dark points.
2007-11-26 12:12:37 · answer #6 · answered by Pamela H 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
she looks like a lot like a buckskin to me with the dark line down her back. Had one several years ago that looked like her and the people I got her from said she was a buckskin. The one i had would get a bit silvery looking when she had her winter coat just like the one in your pictures also.
shes very pretty regardless of color!
2007-11-24 10:38:36 · answer #7 · answered by jennifer_jenn789 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That is a hard color to decipher but I think it looks more like a roan, cream, or grey than a grulla. Cute mini by the way!
2007-11-24 05:58:17 · answer #8 · answered by Arab lover <3 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
He is definitely a roan of some sort. I'd say a Strawberry roan, with dark points
2007-11-28 02:45:52 · answer #9 · answered by Rebecca S 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Looks to me like a Dun... boardering on buckskin... He's deff way to light in colour to be a Grulla...Very cute but...
2007-11-24 10:51:56 · answer #10 · answered by Johnny's Girl 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋