What is the origin of the term "dutch oven"?

Question

I'm not talking about an actual dutch oven, but the term that is used to describe the act of farting under the covers and then pushing your partner's head under so he/she has to smell it.

I suppose some individuals find it to be funny. I'm not making it up, if that's what you're implying.

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Answer 1

It is kind of funny that you should ask this, because I work with a guy that is originally from the Netherlands and we were asking him all kinds of question about "Dutch" terms a few weeks ago. He told us that terms such as "Dutch courage", "going Dutch" and "Dutch reckoning" were derogatory terms that people from Britain (there was a lot of tension between these two countries in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries) often used, to belittle Dutch people. But when we asked about the "Dutch oven", he had never heard the term used before and thought we were talking about a real Dutch oven!

The only thing he could tell us on the origins of the "Dutch oven" was that it was not a term used by Britain regarding the Dutch, at least that he knew of, and that it was most likely inspired by the fine craftsmanship and efficiency of the Dutch ovens by the Dutch.

Answer 2

This is just a guess, but like you, I have often wondered about this saying. It's used regularly in my part of the world: western Canada.

There is a good chance that it has English origins. When England and Holland were trying their best to outdo the others on the high sees to gain supremacy in commerce and business in Europe and elsewhere, it was common for the English to make up expressions that were disparaging of the Dutch. A couple of other examples of this type of reference to the Dutch are the "Dutch Auction" which refers to attending an auction where a very high opening bid is offered and then from there the bids go down (not up); and hearing a "Dutch Concert". This refers to a bunch of drunken Dutchmen singing and dancing.

I can just see some English lout, from four hundred years ago, and in the mood to put down a Dutchman, pull the covers over his wife's head while she slept and drop a big, stinky fart. When she awakes and complains of the smell, he would tell her that their Dutch neighbor was baking again. Just my suggestion. Good question!

Answer 3

This phrase as been tracked down to the following story:

The history of the term 'Dutch Oven' to mean a bad smell is thought to be this. In the late 17th century trading resumed between Holland and Great Britain between the 3rd and 4th Anglo Dutch wars. A trader believed to have been known as De Vries carried a shipment of many different commodities across the channel to the UK. The shipment contained amongst other things, a consignment of Dutch ovens - a popular cast iron/ceramic cooking vessel of the time and a load of 'Spirit of Hartshorn', known as ammonia today, which had many uses which included for cleaning and as a fertiliser.
De Vries ship met with poor weather on the trip and the ovens became contaminated by the ammonia. Once the ovens were distributed around the capital people found the stench of the ammonia which had impregnated the ovens to be intolerable. Due to the tensions from the wars it was common at this time for the British to use anything Dutch as a term of belittlement (see 'Dutch Courage', 'Going Dutch' etc) It then became popular to refer to a noxious smell as 'Smelling like a Dutch oven'.
First record of the term being used as slander was found in the English one sheet newspaper 'The Daily Courant' in 1705.
It seems that the act of enclosing someone in a small 'oven like' space such as a duvet with a bad smell such as flatulence has now become the current usage of the term 'Dutch Oven'.

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What is the origin of the term "dutch oven"?
I'm not talking about an actual dutch oven, but the term that is used to describe the act of farting under the covers and then pushing your partner's head under so he/she has to smell it.

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Refer to the book "The Pirate Hunter" by Marc Jacobs. During the late 1600s, in cold weather dutch women would often use a small coal-fueled portable heater that was placed under one s dress. Given the fact that people used to bathe semi-annually at that period of time, the heated nether regions below one s dress kept the user of the heater quite warm in winter, but when one raised their dress to release some of the heat, the emanating smell smell was obviously, quite unpleasant to one s olfactory senses.

Answer 9

sorry, i've never heard of that term for it.

Answer 10

Is that supposed to be something funny?