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Some women seem to think that chauvanism cloaked in humor is amusing, even when it's directed at them! To me, it's like listening to some of those misogynistic rap songs that talk about women as sex objects, and quite a few women will say, "oh it doesn't offend me, because it doesn't apply to me," when clearly the lyrics are referring to women in general, not a specific female. Am I the only one who finds this sort of thing offensive?

2007-11-22 16:35:38 · 19 answers · asked by It's Ms. Fusion if you're Nasty! 7 in Social Science Gender Studies

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I think you'll find, as you're exposed to more experiences in life and get to meet a larger cross-section of people, that the stereotyping of women is not so prevalent as it sometimes seems.

There are many men and women who don't resort to applying or suggesting standard stereotyping as a rule. Like in most everything else in our media driven society bad press and bad people get all the attention while the rest of us don't. But we're out there accepting, and often championing, equal rights for all.

(My seeing your question is an interesting coincidence because this is an issue I deal with a lot in both my writing and my art. My writing often deals with young women being offered better role models than Paris or Brittney or Pamela.

http://pics.livejournal.com/unmired/pic/0006ybrb/g11

This link is to a painting I finished last night that deals with the images women have been fed and about women who have risen above such stereotyping. I hope you like this.)

2007-11-22 17:06:53 · answer #1 · answered by Doc Watson 7 · 4 0

OK first off Rap is Crap! I can't stand it because it is all the same and it is degrading towards women and pretty much everyone. But that is where the 1st amendment comes into play. Freedom of speech! This also applies to other things as well. I can stand how politically correct things are getting. Do you really think it bothers me if someone calls me a cue ball (I shave my head!) or a mick (which is a put down to Irish like calling a black person the N word!) Does this bother me? NO! Why? Because I don't take it seriously. There are so many things in life to worry about and a name is not one of them. Now yes I might say something back if the person was doing it in a derogatory way but when it is used in a sarcastic way I laugh and why shouldn't I? Now once again 1st amendment again but here is what people don't seem to realize "You Don't Have to Listen!" Turn the station of go somewhere else why should others who enjoy these thing be punished because others don't? If they are playuing rap on the radio I turn the station it's simple. The more restrictions put on things the worse it will get. Let me explain take a person and put them in a cage made paper and keep shrinking that cage eventually there is going to be no room left and the person will be forced to break out. It is like the whole Christmas and Hanukka wait they changed it to holidays because people whined about it. How rediculous is this getting! I am not religious at all and it didn't bother me being called Christmas. But people just want everything to go there way and will complain to it gets changed beacause the people in charge just want the whining to stop. I don't know if anyone has really looked at the world lately but all these changes are actually having a negitive effect on society! People worring about words LOL let's worry about guns and kids killing other kids and drugs... etc! I could really write a book about what's destroying this world but as long as you have 1 person over here going "Oh that offends me!" and another over there doing the same thing and someone in charge going "OK we'll change that for you!" nothing on this planet is going to get better. I weep for the future because it looks like George Orwells 1984 will become a reallity!

2007-11-22 21:47:30 · answer #2 · answered by mrjamfy 4 · 0 1

As a man, I must said that part of us effectively live by prejudices. Personally, I find more amusing (it's why I'm here now) digging out what women really think of every stereotype thrown at them, but culture, education and nurturing could make a young boy utterly convinced that world is a matter of pimps and hotties.
However, I must say, even if you'll find cynical, that stereotypes sells, so maybe there are rappers that actually doesn't believe in what they say. Only, they find people will buy, and since the women you said did not say anything against them, they keep selling a lot.
I think there are even women that made a living out of objectifying and demeaning themselves: some, but not all, beauty contestants barely able to say something coherent, but able to spray glue and hairspray on their "peculiar bodyparts" to glue better their swimsuit on, and getting more attention than a female scientist, or a manager, presumed singers and actresses accepting to be used only as an arousal tool... people who, like the rappers, find that sex sells.

2007-11-22 21:33:45 · answer #3 · answered by qzmaster591 5 · 0 0

Of course you aren't. Many people react immediately to signal words and phrases, and take offense at them--and this reaction demolishes for such people any possibility that the words or phrases can be taken as funny.

"Tough room," he said, the words echoing lonely about the suddenly silent hall.

I, on the other hand, sometimes find objectifying, demeaning stereotype humor screamingly funny. Those who do that sort of thing unconsciously are inherently laughable bozos, unwitting buffoons--and sometimes the jokes really are very clever constructions, and one wonders where they came from.

Those who do that sort of thing consciously and deliberately are another story. I can still appreciate the artistry of the constructions, but I cannot love their evident purpose, and for that I cannot laugh.

But I admit that my hide is thick. It takes a lot to give me offense. And I'm inclined to think that the evil fool may one day become good and wise.

That does you no good: you feel what you feel, as I feel what I feel. Don't laugh at what you don't find funny; I don't, either.

2007-11-22 17:34:05 · answer #4 · answered by skumpfsklub 6 · 2 0

no offense, yet became into that a shaggy dog tale? look. from a woman's attitude, cheesy %. up traces are demeaning. the actuality which you in basic terms wrote 4 paragraphs with regard to the way you think of that lady secretly needs to attach to you, shows which you're self absorbed. in case you will attempt to %. up a woman at a food market, get used to rejection. some human beings in basic terms desire to purchase nutrition. the genuine gentleman element to do, could be to basically say hi and ask her if she mandatory any help. do no longer rope her into stupid, deliberate traces. take care of her like a guy or woman. no longer a slave, or, in her words, like an merchandise. do exactly no longer tutor off and settle for which you may desire to no longer be what she's finding for. the ironic element is which you in basic terms defined precisely why women think of adult adult males are self-absorbed and demeaning to them. do no longer tale this to hard, yet she rather wasn't interested in you.

2016-10-17 21:13:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am just the opposite. I do not like the way the mainstream rap songs talk about women, but if a joke is directed at me I can usually laugh at it. Most of the time the person who made it is not serious, respects me and women, so I do not take it in disrespect.

Sometimes you have to be able to laugh at yourself.

2007-11-22 16:44:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

I think its terrible that women are objectifyed.

I believe women should be brought to the front in society, protected, and put on a pedestal.

Then we men can look up their skirts.

2007-11-22 20:46:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I fail to see anything funny in meanness or cruelty disguised as humor regardless of the topic. I feel women involved in rap believe this to be a vehicle towards riches and end up selling themselves because that's all they've got.

2007-11-22 17:01:45 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

It doesnt apply to all women, assuming that all men think like that or even those rappers do is rediculous. Why dont you pay attention some time, even 50 cent has things in his songs about how he doesnt want some slut, he wants a woman to "love him like she loves pop".
There isnt a man alive who think all women are objects. Your attitude is going to keep guys from treating you like the woman who isnt a stereotype because you are ignorant of the truth.
If you werent, guys would treat you like gold.

2007-11-22 17:08:00 · answer #9 · answered by Doggzilla 6 · 1 3

Women have been objectified since dawn of civilization by primitive people, renessaince artists, and on and on... Men are objectified too - Mr. Universe, Playgirl, etc... We are not complaining... Girls you can objectify me anytime!

2007-11-22 17:33:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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