In this way, inequality would be eliminated and we all get access to basic resources regardless of jobs, such that the rich don't exploit the working class, when they do the most work. In this way, we are equal. There is no social classes. Wouldn't it be better if the world adapted this system of equality?
2007-11-22
10:08:03
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Those who don,t work will be sent to prison. There's incentive.
And I really am not that cynical of a person. I believe some people who enjoying working for the sole satisfaction of pride and achieving a better society.
2007-11-22
10:13:36 ·
update #1
charlie s, everyone who is able will be required to work. And maybe someone is not as good of a worker as his neighbour, but so long as he puts effort in it, then he should be given the same as someone who does more work.
2007-11-22
10:19:06 ·
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Well, everyone would be evenly distrubuted, so everyone gets the same amount as the next guy. I don't believe that killing people for not working would be very ideal. I think that those who don,t work would be crammed into prison. The government would be watching you much more, so that you can not pretend to work, they will have to see that you are actually working. I don't think it would be that much of a problem. Sure, some people will inevitably slack off, but once they realize that slacking off has it's punnishments, they will stop and will actaully work. Maybe they can feel proud of themselves, too.
2007-11-22
10:34:24 ·
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Didn't you ask this question all ready.(That's called trolling) I'll vote for myself next week.
2007-11-22 18:43:32
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answered by ak6702 7
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I think a lot of people would be tempted to try to get just a wee bit more out of the sharing than they put into it. The problem with your idea - which, by the way, is usually called socialism - has a well-known name: "the tragedy in the commons." Let me give you an example of it.
There's an online game called "The New Moon MUD." You can find it by searching on those words. It's a fantasy/medieval game where you play a character, solving quests and killing evil monsters for points.
A few years ago, one of the game's programmers decided that it would be a good idea if players could share weapons with each other, and to make the sharing more simple and convenient, he created a communal weapons vault in the Warrior's League. The idea was that high level players would come in with extra, high level weapons that they had taken off the corpses of the monsters and donate them for the use of their pals who were playing other characters.
It didn't work. A high level player would come in and drop a bunch of nifty weapons in that vault, and in the very next moment a low level player would rush in, grab them all, and then run off to the store to sell them for money. The "tragedy in the commons" destroyed the "sharing" idea behind the vault in the blink of an eye.
And that happens whenever socialism is tried, unless some thugs take over everything and send secret policemen to spy on and terrorize everybody. When those thugs appear, claiming to be the "custodians" of the People's communal property, what really happens is that they are asserting their own priority with respect to the use of that property - in other words, defacto ownership - and what had been socialism becomes state communism.
At that point, the "tragedy in the commons" shifts from the use of the commonweal to the rate at which labor can be made to expand it. People start to "slack off" at work, knowing that they will receive their "equal paycheck" regardless of how well they do their jobs. That was a very common problem in the Soviet Union, where socialism and state communism were enforced by law.
As the result, the police had to start going around making sure that people were keeping busy, and so workers started getting very good at looking as if they were busy for as long as the policeman was there. And there were lots of "examples" made of people who got caught being lazy or keeping too much private property, or not sharing enough.
The various Soviet police agencies - the Cheka, the NKVD, and the KGB all murdered people to scare the rest into being good little socialists. But no matter what they did, the USSR's economy just didn't perform well enough.
2007-11-22 18:26:18
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answered by elohimself 4
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I agree with stung. Just one small example: One person may work hard and put a lot of thought and consideration in everything. This person makes improvements in his/her lifestyle and shares these ideas so other can do the same.
However, there is another person who would simply rather sit around and play video games all day. After all, video games are much more fun than work. Wouldn't you say? This is called free will. They both have the free will to do whatever they want with their lives.
To enable your idea (which I think is fantastic) we would have to be made all the same. We would all have to agree on everything and be the same at all times about all things.
If only this could work. Some might say that is a naive way of thinking. They may be right. I see it as a good way of thinking. Just haven't followed through with the thought to come to the dreadful conclusion.
2007-11-22 18:21:52
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answered by Pink Panther 4
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The "world" has tired you system numerous times. The last attempt was the old Union of Soviet Socialists, all have been miseable failures. It was even tried in the Jamestown colony before there was a United States.
It requires that human nature be eliminated. Its a grand idea on Paper but doesn't work in reality with humans - those that refuse to work get to reap the efforts of those that do work.
Its still called Marxism after Karl Marx.
And who's going to enforce you system of "equality" - are people with guns going to enter one country and take wheat away from the productive farmer and give to lazy people somewhere else?
What about water, are you going to force people to share water?
You need to read your history and ponder human nature.
2007-11-22 18:23:23
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answered by jack w 6
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Girl... will you PLEASE take those rose-colored glasses off and look at the REAL WORLD around you???
Go live in Sweden and see how you like it. Submit the names you chose for your babies to the government for approval. Paint your house only one of the 19 government-approved house colors.
You keep spouting off how wonderful this system would be, and then in the next breath, you THREATEN people who do not go along with your system with PRISON! You know what that is called? It's called TOTALITARIANISM! Have you ever heard of the Siberian Labor Camps? They DIDN'T WORK for the Soviet Union as punishment for those who defied the government. Ever heard of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn? READ HIS BIO cited below... but let me quote from it for you....
"His conclusion is that Communism will always be totalitarian and violent, wherever it is practiced. There was nothing special in the Russian conditions that affected the outcome."
Mind you, Solzhenitsyn was awarded the NOBEL PRIZE in 1970. This man SUFFERED under communism... he was exiled from Russia. Do you know what he said about the "West"??? Let me quote again:
"Until I came to the West myself and spent two years looking around, I could never have imagined to what an extreme degree the West had actually become a world without a will, a world gradually petrifying in the face of the danger confronting it . . . All of us are standing on the brink of a great historical cataclysm, a flood that swallows up civilization and changes whole epochs."
THINK about those words! And think about this, too...
He described the problems of both East and West as "a disaster" rooted in agnosticism and atheism. He referred to it as "the calamity of an autonomous, irreligious humanistic consciousness."
"It has made man the measure of all things on earth—imperfect man, who is never free of pride, self-interest, envy, vanity, and dozens of other defects. We are now paying for the mistakes which were not properly appraised at the beginning of the journey. On the way from the Renaissance to our days we have enriched our experience, but we have lost the concept of a Supreme Complete Entity which used to restrain our passions and our irresponsibility."
JJ... WHY do you continue to believe the crap that communism and socialism preaches? Don't STOP your education with it...BEGIN with it, and learn... learn from the great thinkers like Solzhenitsyn... who knew FIRST HAND what it is REALLY like.
Have a right-wing day.
2007-11-22 19:30:09
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answered by wyomugs 7
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Seriously, have you ever heard of socialism? I think you are, and you're just trying to pollute this board in a roundabout way.
Socialism always fails moron. It never works. That's not how the world really works. Now, I'm not a total Republican or anything, but running a government is a little bit more complicated than going one way or the other.
2007-11-22 18:23:35
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answered by Anonymous
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See how that works in North Korea and Cuba. That is not much better. That is not what I call progress.
The rich do not exploit anyone.
You believe in communism and socialism. Nothing I can say will change that.
2007-11-22 18:44:38
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answered by Chainsaw 6
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It would never work. There are too many lazy people and scam artist. The moral standards and self respect of our entire society would have to be raised quite a bit. People would actually have to start caring as much about their neighbors as they do themselves. Everyone would have to have a conscious.
2007-11-22 18:26:46
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answered by jim h 6
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No because not everybody has the same drive to work you're talking about a communist society on paper it works, in practise, not so much why show up for work if you can just grab what you want from the neighbour?
2007-11-22 18:11:58
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answered by Susan C 3
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An magic rays of sunshine will come bursting through the clouds, and Kermit the Frog will sing a sappy song...
Here's a secret, anyone who tells you we're all equal wants something from you. The only equality in this life, is death.
2007-11-22 18:13:32
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answered by ic2olney 4
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What you are describing is idealized Marxism.
or...
John Lennon's silly song Imagine..."theres no posessions"
well, he also asked if he was a dreamer,
and I'd have to say he was
perhaps some day we'll join him.
If we all wind up in hell
2007-11-22 18:21:33
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answered by ? 6
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