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(hint. consider such a sequence u_n whose limit is say L and assume that infinite number of terms satisfy say u_p someone please explain to me the procedure. thanks alot in advance!!

2007-11-22 09:25:02 · 2 answers · asked by mhthekidd 2 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

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It is unnecessary to suppose that the sequence converges, or even that it is a sequence in R. ANY sequence in a totally ordered set has a monotone subsequence.

Proof: Let (x₁, x₂, x₃... ) be a sequence in a totally ordered set. Call x_i a peak of this sequence if for every j>i, x_j≤x_i. Then there are two possibilities:

Case 1: There are infinitely many peaks. In this case, let (x_k₁, x_k₂, x_k₃... ) be the subsequence of all the peaks occurring in (x₁, x₂, x₃... ). Since it is a subsequence, i
Case 2: There are only finitely many peaks -- then the set of the indices of all the peaks is finite and thus has a maximum. So let k₁ be the first natural number larger than the indices of all the peaks, so that x_k₁ is the first element that occurs after all the peaks. Then define a subsequence recursively by letting x_(k_(n+1)) be the first element occurring after x_(k_n) such that x_(k_(n+1)) > x_(k_n). Note that for any n in this sequence, x_(k_n) will occur after x₁, and thus after every peak in the sequence, so it will not itself be a peak, meaning that there will be at least one j>k_n such that x_j > x_(k_n), so it is always possible to satisfy this recurrence relation. Further, the subsequence (x_k₁, x_k₂, x_k₃...) so defined is obviously monotone increasing (and even strictly so).

Since in either case we may define a monotone subsequence, it follows that every sequence has a monotone subsequence, whether it converges or not (in fact, proving that every sequence has a monotone subsequence is a useful lemma in proving the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem).

2007-11-22 13:51:43 · answer #1 · answered by Pascal 7 · 1 0

as far as i remember you need to make the derivate in that point (L in your case).. and to study its sign. If the sign is >0 you should have a converging sequence.... I hope I'm right... the idea is that all the elements between u and p are going to the L ... and that's why the sequence should be somehow monotone.

2007-11-22 17:32:04 · answer #2 · answered by nobody100 4 · 0 1

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