Was Plato's highst goal to no god?

Question

You have got to watch those translators.

Answer 1

Noh Way: the play's the thing, wherein to catch the con-sciens of the King.

Plato under-stood God, Good, even as he coined "hypo-thesis" to indicate "standing under Mind's Ideas."

From such a coign, Aristotle descended into physis-emphasis.

Even Ari didn't ignore or deny God, finding "first or primal philosophy" to be the study of what Kant found indeterminable--Nous or the "I Am *that* I Am."

Since quantum mechanics' theorizing caught up to what religious understand as "state-specificity," aka "the old man with his deeds" and "the new creature in Christ, Truth," it is more understood (e.g., Husserl, Whitehead) that organisms may move from one awareness level to another, and that each awareness level has its own ideation and conceptualization template and configurings. (Doh?)

So, WYSIWYG; if you are Kant, you see in 5 macro senses, do experiments with same, etc., and rationalize that Emmanuel Swedenborg's accurate contemporaneous far-seeing of a unique event in Stockholm was, uh, "a lucky guess?"

More modern science has shown that human intentionality is indeed able to move beyond the time/space formulation of Newton. This type of "The Field" (McTaggart), "Extraordinary Knowing" (Mayer), and "Psychoenergetic Science" (Tiller) study is being incorporated into philosophic awareness, much as Husserl and Whitehead pioneered post-kantian-materialism philosophy.

kind regards,

j.

Answer 2

To no good?
Or to no God.

Big difference there, so please confirm.

Plato did not write his dialogues to state "doctrines", but to raise questions and show a way that would make his readers think by themselves, and hopefully become "philosophoi" in the end; in doing so he definitely had deep beliefs of him, that are always in the background of the dialogues, and he knew from the start where he wanted to lead us (I didn't say "from the start of his life", but from the start of his activity as a writer, which does not preclude an "evolution" on his part--and that's precisely what he describes to us in the VIIth letter--, but which means that this evolution was prior to his dialogues, and may at best have served as a model to the path he is leading us into);

Answer 3

i think we must look at Plato with our current minds, what did he really say, most of his early writings were in the voice of Socrates, then near the end he seemed to change, have his own voice
many today could write the laws of what they think their ideal society would be, he was different due to just being different for his time,
i think his highest goal was to himself, we dont really know his deepest thoughts, they may of been great, we only know what he spoke out own, in the context of what his thoughts survived

Answer 4

Plato was only an human being
And that's all
Jane

Answer 5

If you would - cite your reference. Did you mean Nietzsche?

See the cut and paste below.

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

– Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125, tr. Walter Kaufmann


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