Liberals, does this still motivate your to pursue socialized medicine?

Question

Look what happened in Massachusetts:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/18/success_could_put_health_plan_in_the_red/?page=1

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Sorry for the grammar error up top.

Answer 1

Reminds me of being in Central Park. or A ALLA Park in Hawaii. Where the pigeons and homeless come out for a feed.

Romney has his share of baggage. Yet we should be looking to learn from history not repeat the ills. Socialized medicine is a band aide or plastic surgery in my opinion. What no one identifies is the special interests here. Doctor's, Lawyers , Insurance companies, drug companies... the revolving cycle of abuse of a system broke. Broken due to lack of ethics and the power & money they each feed off of. You know in the US we are the lowest on the chain when it comes to this. We have no preventative measures. The Chinese do this better than the USA does.

Mass is one State. Used as a role model we should learn more. Kudos to the swiftness of taking the issue to a Republican? Dim debate. Same ones who complain when we use Clinton in our discussions. Guess many don't edit their own posts. Thank you.
edit: Having just been bounced I shall redo my approach. Universal also includes special interests. Those interests have little to do with the population at large. Just more lining of political pockets. No matter what language or definition you use.

Answer 2

Unfortunately, Massachusetts did not implement a proper Single-Payer system, which would have absorbed a lot of this increase.

However, if you are well-informed about government-organized health care systems, then you already know that the first two years of those systems are the most expensive. That's because people who formerly could not afford care now join the system, and long-standing medical issues are finally resolved with those people. As that effect eases, the costs drop dramatically.

The trick is Massachusetts' method: since it is simply subsidizing overpriced private insurers to begin with, will there be any real savings down the road? We'll simply have to see what happens over the next two years.

Answer 3

Below is an excerpt from the article you quote

147 million - Hmm lot of money the Iraq war costs 400 million per day -

Should we spend money on our own people who need help or pour money into a war no one wants

It is called priorities the "neo con" votes for death war and hatred - breeding the terrorisim they claim to fight

Where would you spend money - On Americans or on Iraqis ?


Enrollment in the state's new subsidized health plan is growing so quickly that the state could face a funding gap as large as $147 million by the end of the fiscal year, according to a state projection.

Answer 4

One of these days we will wake up and realize our health is too important to allow greed to govern it.

Think about it. What is the only factor in deciding whether you get a treatment that works 90% of the time or one that works 40% of the time in today's United States? Money. Profits. Greed.

Socialized medicine or a single payer system may not be the best choices but they are far better than the broken system we have now.

Answer 5

sure whilst Ronald Regan grew to become into alive agencies weren't leaving the U. S. because of the fact of outrageous scientific costs!!! Does one found available are agencies that shop their worker under a undeniable quantity of hours no longer because of the fact they have not got the artwork yet because of the fact in the event that they hit x quantity of hours then the corporation has to offer them scientific wellness insurance??? the concern is that the two the democrats and the republican representives we've in place of work are offered and paid for through the insurance lobbiests!!!! An this is an occasion of how insurance companies artwork. They make agreements with the wellness middle etc that each and each style of service gets xamount of dollars. shall we are saying a leg xray would be 50 funds. for corporation X the state insurance pays 25 funds for an identical xray. Then permit's no longer for get the laywer who sues on behalf of somebody. you think of that he will have his customer pay the full bill? That cuts into his decrease. so they have a blue e book of what scientific procuders are nicely worth. The e book isn't easily noted as the blue e book, yet works interior an identical way a blue e book for autos artwork. You as an uninsured individual pays 250 funds for an identical x-ray?? So the insurance companies ARE those that are KILLING US!!

Answer 6

Doesn't this indicate to you that there is a need for this health care? If it was un-needed and/ or the system is fine, why are so many signing up for it, why is the demand so high?

Since when are "conservatives" concerned about being in the red? Look how much money the fed gov wastes on figuring out better ways to blow people up. I'd rather spend that money of health care.

Answer 7

First of all, we don't need Socialized medicine.

Only 15% of people don't have (adequate or any) coverage, and only a small percentage of that can't truly afford it. This is important, people. Those who claim they "can't afford" health insurance are spending their money on what our parents would have considered luxuries.

Look at all those supposedly "poor victims" of Hurricane Katrina. These are exactly the people who would whine they can't afford health insurance. However, if you look closely, you will see most of the women have salon hairdos, costing big bucks every month, and elaborate nail jobs. They need to get their priorities straight. I shouldn't have to live with substandard medical care because Loquitia and her three out-of-wedlock babies decides pretty nails are more important than having health insurance.

Secondly, we can't afford it without raising taxes..... again. Already, most people work from January first to about the first week of April, just to pay their taxes. That means, when you get out of bed, and have to dig your car out of the snow to get to work, while it's still bitter cold and dark outside, you spent that day really working for the government. All your money that day went to pay the government. In February, when the wind whipps up, and your hands are half frozen, and you're trying to drive home in gridlock traffic due to heavy snow, none of the aggravations of the day resulted in one dime going into your pocket. You're still working for the government. Same for dreary, sleet-rained March. About the second week of April, you can finally crack a slight smile, because, after working over three months for no gain, you can finally put a penny in your pocket and keep it. Congratulations, you just made your first penny!

You really want higher taxes? You want to work all of April for Uncle Sam too?

A report a few years ago by John Stossel highlighted why Socialized medicine is not feasible in the U.S. We are a unique nation. We go to the doctor much more often than any other country, and we take way, way, way more medicine too. We're also the fattest country on earth. Imagine all the people demanding free care to cure their "obesity disease" (oh yeah, people are going to start making ludicrous demands because it's all "free"). In countries that have Socialized medicine, some people are actually sent to mountain resorts because they have asthma, or for a week to a lakeside massage therapy clinic once a year to treat their bad backs. You really think Americans won't go way overboard in demanding these "freebies"?

So, you'll have every fat person demanding quick cures, (maybe a quarter of a million stomach staples every year... imagine the cost!) and everyone with any imagined or exaggerated problem demanding expensive treatment and lots of "free" medication.

Whatever the government estimates the costs to be, it will cost 4-6 times that amount, just like road construction.

This is why we can't afford universal health care (nor need it, nor would find it desirable.... I live the nightmare of Socialized medicine here in Europe; you DON'T want it!!!)

Americans simply cannot control their desire to consume things. It would be a black hole of tax dollars, and it would get worse every year. You think we have an illegal alien problem now? Imagine when they can get free health care!

Answer 8

If I wasn't so poor from years of paying Taxes. I could go to Africa where Bush provides Health Care for millions of Africans.

We just bought $7Billion dollars worth of Pharma Subsidies, with or April 15. 2007 donation to George Bush.

Answer 9

My support for Universal Health Care is unchanged. Mass doesn't have socialized health care, which is what we need in the model of many European countries, whose health care system is vastly superior to that of ours right now.

The difference with Mass's budget shortfall is that they don't have a HUGE source of money to support their system from - i.e., the gross and bloated US military budget.

We have the money to support UHC. It's a matter of pulling it together.

Answer 10

What motivates me to support health care reform is that with a pre-existing condition, the insurance companies won't insure me at any price.